That has nothing to do with being bisexual or not though. I might not be into bodybuilders “exhibiting their masculinity” by being absurdly jacked, but that doesn’t make me not bisexual. I’m just not attracted to that particular gender presentation.
I think when people say “I’m not attracted to trans people” they have a particular idea of a trans person in their head, but plenty of trans people pass and some go “stealth”. “We can always tell” is patently false. I suppose I can imagine a person who is so caught up in gender who would be turned off if they found out someone is trans, but I find it difficult to imagine anyone not asexual who wouldn’t find some trans person initially attractive, at least post-op.
I agree with your last point though. At this point I’ve mostly given up on pansexual/bisexual and just call myself queer.
Did I say people can always tell? I don’t think it’s fair to say that you’re attracted to trans people in general if your just looking at one with fundamentally no obvious differences from a cis person at first glance.
I think our disagreement here is that you’re assuming all trans people want to be seen as the same as a cis person of that gender, right? Well, I know personally and online that some trans folks like being seen as “their own thing”. I don’t think it’s really fair to lump all trans people in a box and say that’s that. I’m sure I fall into that trap at points because humans like putting things into specific categories, but I’m more in favor of seeing the spectrum as just that, a spectrum.
I’m coming at this from the perspective that someone attracted to a passing trans person is basically just attracted to that gender and someone attracted to a (more or less) non passing trans male for example might be more into women who exhibit more masculine traits.
Apologies if this doesn’t make sense at first glance. I wrote this down as more of a stream of consciousness than a thesis.
That has nothing to do with being bisexual or not though. I might not be into bodybuilders “exhibiting their masculinity” by being absurdly jacked, but that doesn’t make me not bisexual. I’m just not attracted to that particular gender presentation.
I think when people say “I’m not attracted to trans people” they have a particular idea of a trans person in their head, but plenty of trans people pass and some go “stealth”. “We can always tell” is patently false. I suppose I can imagine a person who is so caught up in gender who would be turned off if they found out someone is trans, but I find it difficult to imagine anyone not asexual who wouldn’t find some trans person initially attractive, at least post-op.
I agree with your last point though. At this point I’ve mostly given up on pansexual/bisexual and just call myself queer.
I really like that the LGBT+ community has rallied around reclaiming the word “queer”.
Did I say people can always tell? I don’t think it’s fair to say that you’re attracted to trans people in general if your just looking at one with fundamentally no obvious differences from a cis person at first glance.
I think our disagreement here is that you’re assuming all trans people want to be seen as the same as a cis person of that gender, right? Well, I know personally and online that some trans folks like being seen as “their own thing”. I don’t think it’s really fair to lump all trans people in a box and say that’s that. I’m sure I fall into that trap at points because humans like putting things into specific categories, but I’m more in favor of seeing the spectrum as just that, a spectrum.
I’m coming at this from the perspective that someone attracted to a passing trans person is basically just attracted to that gender and someone attracted to a (more or less) non passing trans male for example might be more into women who exhibit more masculine traits.
Apologies if this doesn’t make sense at first glance. I wrote this down as more of a stream of consciousness than a thesis.