I’m from the USA and I disagree…
The clown should be naked from the waste down.
Because he always has his dick out.
Also, Epstein didn’t commit suicide.
He was murdered by trump on August 10, 2019. During trumps first term.waist
I think it still works
Then it’d be from the top of his head.
You don’t know that he isn’t naked from the waist down…
That’s how you looked to us 30 years ago.
Harsh, but probably fair.
Now it’s so much worse!
Not sure about 30, but definitely 20 years ago.
Reagan
So around forty years ago
Nah, it’s always looked like that to anyone with more than two brain cells.
It’s election time in America, which means, of course, time to decide who gets the gun.
For some reason, in 2016, Americans decided to throw the gun into the monkey enclosure at the zoo. The rest of the world watched in horror, but were still unable to look away. Luckily, a bunch of opportunists jumped into the monkey enclosure too. A few made sure the safety on the gun was on, and others nudged the gun in the direction they thought it should be pointed.
In 2020, the gun was handed to a career politician who put it in a box and only glanced at it in occasion to make a point.
Then, in 2024, inexplicably, the gun was thrown back into the monkey enclosure. This time the monkey started throwing shit at anybody who wanted to control his gun, so now the world watches on as the shit-throwing monkey swings the gun around wildly.
(But don’t worry, America’s system of checks and balances will ensure that … HA! Just kidding. You think that a bunch of 20 year olds in the 1700s knew enough about human psychology and game theory to come up with a system that would rein in a corrupt king, as long as he kept others in line with bribes and threats?)
TBF, it did work reasonably well back then. You can’t expect people from the 18th century to design a political system that would work in the 21st.
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My point is that the US political system is in very dire need of a fundamental overhaul. The forces that prevent this are explicitly doing so to prevent the will of the people from being enacted.
Sure, they copied the British system and relabelled things. The British system worked pretty well.
American here, can confirm, except that you forgot that there are some monkeys who are egging on the one with the gun, and pointing out who they would like it to be used on.
It’s definitely part of the whole picture, but not all of it.
I’m missing a Bible, a big truck rolling coal, a boot crushing a Mexican and the Statue Of Liberty in an ICE-prison, a working-class soldier bleeding for oil, a black woman in work-wear getting told she’s a lazy wellfare-queen by a fat Karen in a wheelchair that has a “Millenials just don’t want to work”-Sticker on the back, a blue-haired white girl arguing with a white libertarian in a suit about how poor black people should behave, Elon Musk with cocaine under his nose stuffing money into the face of a fat republican holding up a flag that says “white christian country” while getting a blowjob from a child-slave and Thomas Jefferson holding up the Establishment Clause while Americans worship at an altar dedicated to him and Washington… and so much more.
And, to be honest, I’m a little… unwilling to lie all the blame at the feet of The Orange One or even just the GOP, when it’s a problem with the entire culture. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not all bad, nothing ever is. But there is a kind of shining mythos surrounding the US as the cultural hegemon of the west, created by nearly a century of propaganda, that just contrasts and outlines the differences to reality to an extend that would be laughable, if it weren’t so annoying, sad and frankly terrifying for the rest of the world.
nearly a century of propaganda,
American Exceptionalism wildy predates a mere century, which is not to disagree with your points.
The country was founded as an oligarchy (only rich white males had any say) but sold as a “democracy.” So the propaganda was there before the country even existed.
Also, all points Enkrod makes are spot on.
Needs more dumpster fire in the background.
He needs Jared Leto joker face tats.
He literally couldn’t hold the weight of a gun. He’d also shoot himself and others while trying to hold it.
Would there also be any negative consequences?
Pretty much, but its scary rather than funny.
More these vibes
Noo! Don’t ruin my Goofs for me! Please!
It doesn’t portray him as a pedo, but other than that it’s on point.
I think what pisses me off most about the AMERICA BAD crowd is that some of us here have been fighting this for literal decades, and now these people have decided to jump on the bandwagon after all this time and the only thing they have to offer is criticism that we haven’t been able to fix the problem.
Yeah, thanks. Appreciate that. ABout time you woke up to the problem we’ve been having all this time, now please fuck off if all you want to do is say it’s my fault.
This isn’t the topic that sparked the above - my reaction to this topic is NO FUCKING SHIT we don’t just look like that, we ARE that with the fascists in control. The only thing Trump has really done is to cause the people not really paying any fucking attention to get a clue. CONGRATS ON THE CLUE.
I’ve been fighting this corpo-fascist bullshit my whole life but I’m one person in a sea of morons who just don’t want to talk politics. Ever. Even now with all this obvious nazi shit going on if you start talking politics americans just roll their eyes and ignore you. I’m sorry but this country is kinda fucked idk what else to do.
Unfortunately a few good apples don’t unspoil the bushel.
Which misses the point.
It’s been rotten for quite a while, but NOW some people show up and are like “HEY THESE APPLES ARE ROTTEN”, like no fucking shit
I do get your point. I was trying to be pithy.
When a system is designed from inception to be unfair (what an entirely inadequate word) there’s no fixing it without excising it entirely.
I don’t see that happening within my life time or my great grand children’s.
Well, if you were trying to be pithy, you should have used citrus, not apples, so there, neener :)
I share your lack of hope on things getting much better. I still plan to vote, I still plan to argue online and convince people that we need to deal with our oligarchs as I believe the greatest root of the problem is wealth inequality and that falls at the feet of the oligarchs. Everything else follows from that.
I’m glad you found that pun. I was quietly please with myself.
hah, I didn’t realize it was an intentional pun - I was proud of myself for leaping on it, so now I have to apologize for missing yours AND thinking I was so smart. lol.
I am now pleased with you, though. Better late than never :)
Now you know how people outside the US feel
The cracks have been a lot more apparent from outside the snow globe for a lot longer than you think.
I love the Canadians and Europeans who woke up to it when Trump started disrespecting Canada/Europe. The US was tolerable and respectable until recently, but now we’ve crossed a line! Now they demand that Americans drive our trucks with our guns to the capital and fix things! After all, they would! lol
(I know that’s far from all of them and if you take exception to this I’m probably not talking about you, and otherwise it’s better late than never of course, but still. It’s human nature I suppose to be ignorant about something until you have a material reason not to be, and I should try not to pretend to be superior.)
That’s what gets me about it. We keep hearing news about fascism rising in various places - Germany and France in the news recently - and you don’t hear that same “Well, go take care of it!” that popped up recently against the US.
It’s also hard to take because we HAVE been trying to deal with it for quite a while. heh.
I can understand some negative US sentiment being expressed. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that some folks tried to bitch at us in the past and were downvoted by others defending us. Yeah, well, okay, those people probably are understandably a little bitter. Just like I’m bitter about these things. heh.
Oh, we have a fucking clue.
The bandwagon of the trail of tears? The bandwagon of slavery? The bandwagon of lynchings? The bandwagon of empowering military dictatorships across Latin America? The bandwagon of Vietnam? The bandwagon of the war on terror? The bandwagon of drone bombing weddings?
Yeah, that horrendous anti-America crowd, the whiny bastards. Just piling on to make the poor ‘Americans’ feel bad. Boo hoo.
I get it, not all people in the country that stole America’s name are bad, but playing the victim here is a bit rich. Your country has brought indescribable pain to millions of people…for centuries. Many people on Lemmy own that instead of going all “woe me.”
That country needs to dissolve, and it can’t happen fast enough. China too, lest I be called a tankie.
Couldn’t agree more!
It’s a meme, not an infographic
I’ve been anti American since the bush times, so don’t you come with this. Also, I’m of course gonna criticise you, the same as I criticise Russia.
I understand you are on a dire position but it is entirely your responsibility as a country and not ours as a different country. You are the ones that “spread democracy”, we don’t do that in Europe anymore (thankfully, we are ashamed of our past for what is worth).
So yeah, I will not “fuck off” or “shut up”, not about your shitty country and not about Russia either. WTF does that mean? I don’t stop criticising my country and is way ahead.
Indeed, it looks like that to us (France), but way scarier, like Pennywise, and with more dead/
rapedchildren around. I can’t conceive how this monster hasn’t been guillotined yet.Really? Like, you find Trump scary?
I think this meme is perfectly accurate because Trump is a laughable clown. The only scary thing about him is that being the president gives him vast amounts of power. So, it’s like an absolute laughable clown with a gun. He’s completely ridiculous, but you can’t ignore the gun.
It’s not the monkey enclosure that’s the problem, it’s that you threw a gun into it. Who are the clowns now?
American voters?
Tell that to all the people he had killed. Tell that to ICE victims who are now in concentration camps when they’re not shot down in the street like dogs, to the Iranian girls of the school he had shot down for no reason, tell that to the women and girls he raped, to the families of the people who died in the Capitol during his coup attempts, tell that to all the people starving under his rule, those who died unnecessarily of covid, etc. Trump is not a clown, he is a monster. He has blood on his hands, his face, and he loves it. Every modern ruler is a goddamn psychopath, but he’s the first western one in ages to just be transparent about his monstrosity. The world will be better when he dies, and I hope it’ll be violent and painful for him.
He’s scary enough to terrify all three branches of our own government into shoving their thumbs up their asses instead of sending a pedophile beneath a prison.
He’s scary enough that he is getting away with ass-fucking the constitution. Unhindered. In fact, if the constitution’s ass had an ass, it too would be getting ass-fucked by that gelatinous pile of geriatric shit-stained flesh.
He is scary enough that even though his legacy will be remembered as the anthropomorphized end result of a stool softener overdose, a bit less than half of the most powerful country on the planet chose him to lead their moral-bereft, barren of thought asses into the ground and still beg for more.
He’s scary enough.
As a citizen of The Rest Of The World, I would say American right-wing politics looks like this: First, consider what would benefit the most people or the environment in our current situation. Next, enact the exact opposite.
It’s incredible to me how representatives of the populous who are supposed to be, you know, representing the populous, continuously pass laws that fuck the population over.
Well you see, this is because the laws that are passed benefit the rich, and the right-wing citizens are told to vote that way because it’s totally Good For Them (or at least, will make the Libruls mad).
And, of course, the neoliberal problem of money in politics warping incentives. Courting corporations for campaign donations has utterly destroyed any semblance of actual representation of the populace.
It’s a good thing the Earth doesn’t exist.
There is 60% turnout among eligible voting population. Half of those voted for Trump. That means only 30% of Americans vehemently supported him. It correlates to what I’ve observed that between 20-30% of population are extremists. The Nazis also won that much vote shares.
It may be 30% that support him, but that still works out to be 70% that are ok with him, otherwise the ones that didn’t would have voted.
It may not represent every individual, but it represents the country.
To be fair, the other 30% voted for Kamala. The rest of 40% would have had different reasons for not voting either.
Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the American political system would understand that not voting is effectively the same as having voted for the eventual winner. 70% of the US voting public were satisfied if Trump won, and a subset of those people actively wanted him to win.
Any reason for not voting has a “…and they were happy if Trump won” attached to the end of it.
I have to disagree with this. I’m gonna be frank, this is the elitist view that cost liberals and progressives the presidential election. I’m a pretty cynical person and while I think voters can be dumb, they’re not that dumb. There are always compounding and complex reasons for Trump having been elected, or totally sitting out the previous election. Progressives didn’t want to vote between two genociders and turn it to tally on who will kill less. Meanwhile, working class voters are frustrated with the cost of living not being able to be met voted for Trump. You might be surprised to hear that the working class constituents who voted for Trump are from the base of The Squad of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez’ and Rashida T’laib. AOC asked her constituents as to why they voted for Trump and all of them expressed discontent with Democratic establishment’s lack of urgency and broken promises, especially with the cost of living. They did not vote Trump because they tolerate or like him, they voted him in protest against the establishment Democrats.
At the very least, many populist progressives are getting elected and primarying establishment Dems. In that way, the Democratic Party is being morphed to become more progressive and return to working class roots.
In every general election, there are exactly three options:
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Viable party #1.
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Viable party #2.
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Nonparticipation.
Many Americans think there are more options. There aren’t. Third parties, write-ins, etc. are all permutations of #3. I love seeing establishment Dems losing their primaries to DSA candidates, but if they don’t I’d rather vote strategically than sit out the election and watch fascist kid fuckers take over my country.
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As always, my sincere sympathies and full support are with native Americans.
Not at all. Ronald McDonald is a good clown who helps children rather than kill or fuck them (see Ronald McDonald House). Pennywise or Leto’s Joker? Sure…just not Ronald McDonald.
Nah, Ronald McDonald is a corpo-ass bootlicker who knows what he did.
Trump wants you to think he loves children and is genuinely a great guy. It still fits.
He needs an Israel’s flag somewhere, a pin or something. Also, some useless gadget from the Silicon Valley bros.
useless gadget
Tactically mounted gaudy gold-plated phone with only the ability to spam all-caps messages to social media randomly throughout the day
