Split on this. The assumption 5 year olds couldn’t get this joke because its funny to be in a gay marriage but not yourself gay seems bigoted. Kids could get that just as easily as jokes about straight couples. At the same time rule says no jokes with death or sex. PTB I.M.O.
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On reflection placing sexuality in the category with drugs, death, and racism seems rough
Or even sexuality really, because, once you actually raise your knowledge beyond “basic biology”, it becomes eerily obvious that romantic attraction and sexual attraction aren’t always in sync.
But regardless of that, why the fuck would you moderate an ONLINE FORUM based on what 3-5 year olds understand? They don’t understand taxes, are tax jokes banned? They don’t know how to drive, are road rage dad jokes off the list too?
The more I think about this, the more this mod can suck my clit. Am I supposed to disappear because I’m a bisexual person married with a kid? Am I supposed to not exist around my child because I might make a joke about being bisexual? Am I supposed to hide my own bisexuality until my kid is a teenager?
This is your typical “I’m not homophobic, I don’t mind gay people, but” person. They don’t “mind” gay/bi/lesbian/trans/queer people existing as long as they do it without them needing to acknowledge that existence.
Or to simplify it… they ARE homophobic, but because of current social trends they’re not allowed to say it out loud and they don’t want to get cancelled.
Exactly, have a guy at work like this, claims hes not homophobic but went on a full on rant about his 8-9 year old kid seeing two guys kissing/making out in front of his flat, I even tried to make him see the homophobia by asking if he would have cared if it was a guy and girl and he confirmed it was mainly about it being two guys…some people.
I’m once again annoyed that the default term became homo”sexuality,” and not homoromanticism, because A) why the fuck does anyone who’s not an immediate prospect need to know about anyone’s sexuality? B) the phoneme sexuality implies… sexuality, so it just gives a bunch of bad faith motherfuckers ammunition; C) most of the time it’s actually referring to homoromanticism; and D) even when it’s not, the majority of people would describe a homosexual and heteroromantic person as straight (or closeted :[ ).
As I said, it’s an established term. There’s another option that’s not just chaos: descriptivism. If it’s used to successfully communicate among people, it’s language. If it’s understood by a community of English speakers to be an English word, it is, even if it’s not widely known.
You’re right. I was flattening sexual/romantic attraction and being overly loose with what qualifies discussing sex. I dont agree with the rule and will avoid the comm if that doesnt get amended, but my go to first standard in this comm is “was this mod action even in the rules” before I get to “should it be in the rules”
There is no law forcing sex and marriage to be intertwined, its just an assumption since they normally do. This joke mentions nothing about sex in the marriage, just a play on which genders each in the marriage are attracted to.since most people forget bi people exist
Yeah, Bi myself so I very much appreciate the joke. I just also try to give a berth for people to set whatever rules for a community. Not a rule I like or will accept to continue participating, but if the rule was just plainly “No X” and “X” gets posted I wouldn’t necessarily fault the mod for enforcing the rules as they were, just wouldnt want to be in their comm.
Kids not knowing about sexuality and therefor the absolute basics of consent only helps child abusers, and the earlier you ingrain the concept of consent, the better off they will be later in life.
Basic knowledge about this thematic complex has to be introduced in the first few school years to make sure they
know when somethings iffy, because all child abusers tell their victims that this is ok and completely normal
know who to talk to in case of abuse, which must per definition include basic knowledge of what abuse entails in age-adapted language.
Hiding these basic facts about life itself only makes bigots feel better and child abusers very happy.
They are probably projecting hard. I had a few situations where gay people were hitting on me, which made me feel uncomfortable - not because i care that someone else is gay, but because i absolutely do not find men attractive and have self-confidence issues making it difficult to say no, especially in a bar (edit: not a gay bar) where everyone is already somewhat drunk.
I can absolutely understand that some men might have similar issues, where the thought of hooking up with another man simply feels icky. Difference is: do i let that feeling cloud my judgement in general or am i mature enough to separate those things? These people are still stuck in high school from a development standpoint, and thats both sad and dangerous.
As someone that got called gay all the time in literally kindergarten as a form of bullying, yes kids know what gay/straight are. Fuck Lemmy.world. Nazi bar ass instance.
Split on this. The assumption 5 year olds couldn’t get this joke because its funny to be in a gay marriage but not yourself gay seems bigoted. Kids could get that just as easily as jokes about straight couples. At the same time rule says no jokes with death or sex. PTB I.M.O.
Edit: On reflection placing sexuality in the category with drugs, death, and racism seems rough
It’s not talking about sex though. Gay and bi people existing within a marriage has nothing to do with sex.
Or even sexuality really, because, once you actually raise your knowledge beyond “basic biology”, it becomes eerily obvious that romantic attraction and sexual attraction aren’t always in sync.
But regardless of that, why the fuck would you moderate an ONLINE FORUM based on what 3-5 year olds understand? They don’t understand taxes, are tax jokes banned? They don’t know how to drive, are road rage dad jokes off the list too?
The more I think about this, the more this mod can suck my clit. Am I supposed to disappear because I’m a bisexual person married with a kid? Am I supposed to not exist around my child because I might make a joke about being bisexual? Am I supposed to hide my own bisexuality until my kid is a teenager?
What the fuck is this gatekeeping?
This is your typical “I’m not homophobic, I don’t mind gay people, but” person. They don’t “mind” gay/bi/lesbian/trans/queer people existing as long as they do it without them needing to acknowledge that existence.
Or to simplify it… they ARE homophobic, but because of current social trends they’re not allowed to say it out loud and they don’t want to get cancelled.
Exactly, have a guy at work like this, claims hes not homophobic but went on a full on rant about his 8-9 year old kid seeing two guys kissing/making out in front of his flat, I even tried to make him see the homophobia by asking if he would have cared if it was a guy and girl and he confirmed it was mainly about it being two guys…some people.
Gay people existing is political type.
Didn’t you get the memo? Anyone not cis, hetero and following gendered stereotypes should never be in the same room as a kid or teen. /s
I agree with the other commenter: it’s finely veiled bigotry.
I’m once again annoyed that the default term became homo”sexuality,” and not homoromanticism, because A) why the fuck does anyone who’s not an immediate prospect need to know about anyone’s sexuality? B) the phoneme sexuality implies… sexuality, so it just gives a bunch of bad faith motherfuckers ammunition; C) most of the time it’s actually referring to homoromanticism; and D) even when it’s not, the majority of people would describe a homosexual and heteroromantic person as straight (or closeted :[ ).
linguist here. you mean «homoeros» (ὁμόερoσ) “samelove” (Greek), not “man/mankind romance” (as opposed to “anserromantic” gooselover) (Latinus)
Fellow linguist here. I did get it wrong, but I meant heteroromanticism, which is an existing term because I’m not a prescriptivist :)
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At what time is it comprehension, and ramblings?
As I said, it’s an established term. There’s another option that’s not just chaos: descriptivism. If it’s used to successfully communicate among people, it’s language. If it’s understood by a community of English speakers to be an English word, it is, even if it’s not widely known.
You’re right. I was flattening sexual/romantic attraction and being overly loose with what qualifies discussing sex. I dont agree with the rule and will avoid the comm if that doesnt get amended, but my go to first standard in this comm is “was this mod action even in the rules” before I get to “should it be in the rules”
There is no law forcing sex and marriage to be intertwined, its just an assumption since they normally do. This joke mentions nothing about sex in the marriage, just a play on which genders each in the marriage are attracted to.since most people forget bi people exist
Yeah, Bi myself so I very much appreciate the joke. I just also try to give a berth for people to set whatever rules for a community. Not a rule I like or will accept to continue participating, but if the rule was just plainly “No X” and “X” gets posted I wouldn’t necessarily fault the mod for enforcing the rules as they were, just wouldnt want to be in their comm.
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Kids not knowing about sexuality and therefor the absolute basics of consent only helps child abusers, and the earlier you ingrain the concept of consent, the better off they will be later in life.
Basic knowledge about this thematic complex has to be introduced in the first few school years to make sure they
Hiding these basic facts about life itself only makes bigots feel better and child abusers very happy.
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I agree, we need to ban all hetero representation so children don’t see it.
No more talks about moms and dads, ban any hetero couples from interacting together in public spaces, remove them from all media.
Sure is weird how for some reason people never mean this when they say kids shouldn’t be taught about sexuality 🤔
They are probably projecting hard. I had a few situations where gay people were hitting on me, which made me feel uncomfortable - not because i care that someone else is gay, but because i absolutely do not find men attractive and have self-confidence issues making it difficult to say no, especially in a bar (edit: not a gay bar) where everyone is already somewhat drunk.
I can absolutely understand that some men might have similar issues, where the thought of hooking up with another man simply feels icky. Difference is: do i let that feeling cloud my judgement in general or am i mature enough to separate those things? These people are still stuck in high school from a development standpoint, and thats both sad and dangerous.
As someone that got called gay all the time in literally kindergarten as a form of bullying, yes kids know what gay/straight are. Fuck Lemmy.world. Nazi bar ass instance.