That’s some goddamm primitive shit right there. Great culture you got.
The singer is the culture. The torture is the regime.
Try learning the difference before talking out your ass next time.
Hey maybe don’t judge an entire culture by its worst adherents? Are we really still doing this 9/11-era nonsense?
Sure, buddy-boy. We’re doing real honest to goodness humanitarian shit here in the USA. Get bent.
I don’t believe they mentioned anything about the USA. That was you making an assumption. For all I know, they believe the same about the USA.
Also, chill out. Telling a stranger to get bent is wild.
So is calling an entire culture primitive. At least mine is targeted at someone using open bigotry rather than issuing a blanket statement for entire people.
They can both be bad. Lashes for not covering your hair us awful. The US is also carrying out brutal and terrible things. US government actions don’t mean everyone should ignore the shitty things the Iranian government does.
“Iran is doing some pretty awful shit to a particular citizen of theirs.”
“Well wah, what about the U.S?!??”
Like, seriously? You must have practiced this in the mirror before you typed this, you basement dwelling weirdo
I included the “what about” in my initial response, but realized how pointless it is to argue with who deny words when they’re written in the thread they’re arguing about.
Did you practice that for 2 days? Really?
Basement. Dwelling. Weirdo. Make sure mommy doesn’t forget the ketchup for your dino nuggies.
No. I didn’t. I just don’t log into this shit and respond all the time. Do you?
Wait… so, torturing someone is a form of torture?
No way!
Uhhhhh… Yeah?
Even if you feel that whipping is a legitimate form of punishment, 74 lashes is such a crazy number. Like I’m not sure she’ll be conscious for the last of it.
Depending on how it’s done, that could easily be fatal.
There is no such thing as a legitimate form of punishment
Penal systems exist for correction, not punishment. The idea of a sentence is how long you need to separate that individual from society, with access to excellent mental health professionals and various forms of therapy, before they can safely return to society.
Punishment doesn’t correct people.
@ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
The wonders of Islam, eh.
That’s like reading the Sermon on the Mount and then pointing at evangelical megachurches or the Crusades and saying “the wonders of Jesus huh”. Silly man. Go read the Qur’an, no more no less, and find the “if you don’t wear a veil you get lashed” line. I’ll agree with you if you find them, go go.
FYI be very carefully of anti-Iran articles like this. It’s propaganda.
Obviously treating her like this is abhorrent. Just remember that the media is not your friend.
How about the crazy shit France enforces about what muslim kids can wear in school and how hamfisted and discriminatory it is?
How about Israel now trying to push to expel ANY Arabs from its government?
The spin is hard to perceive because nothing about this article is necessarily wrong and yes of course the Iranian government has some serious problems, I see no reason to doubt for example that several thousand protestors were killed in Iran but it is not in the high tens of thousands like is so confidently reported in western media with little if any inspection of the credulity of the claims.
It is difficult and confusing but also if you just remember the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend and that falling into believing so is dangerous, all of this comes back to that in the end.
Choose your enemies based on how they behave not who their enemies are.
Barbaric tradition. Absolutely awful.
I can’t imagine why women would want to live in such an oppressive place.
Oh, okay. Next time you’re born, you should make sure to choose a good place.
Rolls the dice, come on give me a good Isekai this time.
Drink one less Starbucks a day and fly her into your new house from the savings.
Oh yeah. They can just move and sell their houses to aquaman.
Its a reminder that just because the orange fuck found the absolute worst way to deal with them. Iran fucking sucks. Like, the government needs to be eradicated. Just not like how fucking america did it.
Trump brought them cultural unity to defend themselves militarily from the only government they have
What do you propose
The exact way it was being handled before: Letting them collapse on their own. And it was very close to actually working, their was massive unrest in the country and it looked looked like they were on the verge of something at least. Now the hardliners have shored up their power, and somehow Trump fucked up so hard they are even a sympathetic figure on the world stage. Truly one of the world’s most staggeringly idiotic military decisions.
Sometimes I believe the reason religion exists is to control women.
Then I remember it controls everyone that is not in the elite.
also why, in his mission to queerify and turn religion anarchic, aleister crowley was branded ‘the most dangerous man alive’ by the powers that be in his time.
or atleast thats what i can gather from his actual practice. I think, that if theres any truth to the epstein circle and occult practice, its a whacko larp not really connected to anything resembling actual thelemic magick, which is generally VERY focused on consent and acceptance of anyone involved
sry i saw an opportunity to infodump and ran with it ✌️
It makes the people control each other.
The women who shows too much female attractiveness gets beatings.
The man who doesn’t make a family and is dominant toward his woman is punished with lower social status.
The system of people regulates itself.
Religions are nothing else than sects.
Men don’t own women
Islam and evangelical Christians disagree.
This is conservatism. Plain and simple. Conservatism should be a capital offense in every nation. There is no such thing as a conservative in any country whose life is valuable. They are all pure evil and need to be dealt with as such.
It’s pretty common for extremism like this to get entrenched when met with over attempts at manipulating countries. It happened with the Taliban and it’s happened on Iran. It’s pretty rare to get the “Regime change” you want through violence
The Taliban and current Iranian leadership are both conservative. I think you are inadvertently supporting my position that conservatism should be erased.
Well, I’m just stating why groups like these gain traction. Extreme circumstances, extreme solutions.
That’s fair. I agree that extreme circumstances warrant extreme solutions.
I spent over 50 years as a pacifist. I hate the idea of harming others, but I can see now that every single terrible thing done by humans in human history was done by conservatives. Every war, every genocide, every act of bigotry you’ve ever heard of… all of it is led exclusively by conservatives.
Conservatives are the single greatest threat to all life on earth. For example, if not for conservatives, the normal people would be able to address climate change. If not for conservatives, billionaires would be chargeable with crimes and be required to pay taxes fairly. Employees would have the ability to unionize. Healthcare would be available and housing would be affordable. Every major problem we face as humans today is solved by the erasure of conservatives.
We are in extreme circumstances globally because of the continued existence of conservatives. There is a way to fix this problem. And you’re correct. It’s an extreme solution. But, it’s desperately needed.
Iran supplies weapons to Russia to use against Ukraine and has funded and armed HAMAS for decades
Of course you’re from Lemmy.world.
Of course you’re tiresome
Hamas is a democratically elected government. Supporting hamas just means giving water sanitation equipment sometimes.
Or do you mean the military of hamas?
Yes this is bad.
And also USA systemically tortures thousands of people for decades at a time and it’s completely “normal”.
Butwhatabout
When you discuss, say, an execution in the USA… do you also post Iranian executions?
Hmmm? Answer me.
Even for whataboutism this is a rather weak argument, like how is that even remotely the same.
