I have no idea what there is not to understand about this…and why it’s mostly men complaining about “protecting women’s spaces”, lol.

This might upset some people, and you know what? Good.
If this upsets you, at least the others will know and the trash can take itself out.

  • Sarah Valentine@pawb.socialEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Honestly, I feel as though if we just mandated that everyone should have to get a chromosome test, there’ll be so many cis people who find out that they’re intersex that the whole culture war aimed at trans people falls apart because they no longer can stand on the pedestal of “the majority” and become so much more aware that sex and chromosomes aren’t as black and white (or bio-essentialist) as some may think…

    I love your energy, but this would require conservatives to show integrity and consistency in acknowledging the truth. We all know at this point that there is no truth for them but what they want, and whatever they have to say or do at any given time to get it. The tests would happen behind closed doors, the results would be them saying it’s whatever they want it to be based on their judgement of the person at a glance, and everything else would be the dog and pony show to distract from or justify this happening.

    • Flukeyfox@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Very true, though I think it would bring a lot more people who are current fence-sitting, or just don’t know anything about trans people/healthcare and prone to fall for conservative lies, into the know on just how silly the transphobic rhetoric is

      There will definitely still be a lot who will die on the hill they’ve created, or actively try to make up new lies or even just repeat their old ones with the large billionaire backing they have… Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing, as well as just the deep hatred they hold… But I’d hope it would at least make their bad faith arguments way less acceptable and fallen for by the average person.

      I could also be just being hopelessly optimistic of an alternate timeline that won’t happen anyways… Who knows I guess

      • Sarah Valentine@pawb.socialEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Very true, though I think it would bring a lot more people who are current fence-sitting, or just don’t know anything about trans people/healthcare and prone to fall for conservative lies, into the know on just how silly the transphobic rhetoric is

        To be honest, I think this alone would make the whole venture worth it. Those who might be reached with reason. I was way off on the wrong side of all this at one time, but because someone didn’t totally write me off and I kept taking in new information, I found my way out of ignorance. My heart goes out to all the people on the wrong side today who will someday look back on this time in their lives with shame, as I do with that time in my life.

        • Flukeyfox@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          3 days ago

          Yeah exactly! I’ve always tried to be mindful that not everyone who has possibly transphobic views are necessarily a “transphobe”, and may just be someone that’s misinformed… in an information bubble that’s designed from the start to be against us.

          I’ve always been open to talking with people who are a bit “eh” on it, and always try to be respectful… As long as they can do the same. I feel as though a lot of people are willing to listen, and even if they don’t immediately agree with everything, it still helps to introduce a different perspective and new information that they can think on and further look into in the future.

          The entire topic is tangled in hatred, suspicion and purposeful dehumanisation of us… It can be hard for the average person to untangle from that if it’s all the info they know, so we have to reconnect on a human level

          If everyone is immediately prickly when someone says something misguided, it won’t solve anything, it just drives us all further into our own echo chambers… Though I can understand why some are immediately prickly to transphobic comments… We deal with enough abuse that it can get too much and defensive walls get built to protect ourselves. It’s why we need cis allies to speak out more alongside us because the trans community can’t be the only ones standing up against this billionaire-funded behemoth of a campaign… It just won’t work out. I love stuff like the Not in Our Name collective in the UK for this same reason, it just needs a more attention as most don’t know of it.

          Those driving this hate campaign want us to not talk to each other, and look at each other from large deep chasms, because that’s how they drive the wedge further in. So I try to communicate with those at least willing to have a civil conversation even if it may be a bit uncomfortable sometimes.

          Of course, if someone is just straight up an a-hole and it’s clear they aren’t willing to be civil and want to just hate and attack, then yeah they are definitely a transphobe and I just stay clear of them lol

          Also sorry for the long rambles - I’m prone to it sometimes 😅