Pretty sure only pixels are, but Motorola was working on one. It’s fucking stupid that the only phone they support is manufactured by the company that is causing most of the problem. Their phone sucks too.
Next flagship Motorola will have official GrapheneOS support. It will be very expensive. After that, hopefully more mid-level Motorola phones will be supported too.
OR - they could dumb down grapheneOS so that it can run on a lot of other phones ?? ? maybe? yes? I get the desire to be able to encrypt the entire drive - that IS important, but I think its more important to get the functionality of graphene provides to more people. A non-google based phone is pointless on only google based hardware.
The point of GOS isn’t to “encrypt the entire drive” though, the whole point is a secure, private and stable platform that actually works. Their team chose Pixel phones because the hardware makes it possible to make it more secure, as in it has specific things in it that many other phones don’t have.
Adding more supported phones would be great, but it would mean having to support that many more configurations and likely sacrificing the main features and stability as it is not a huge team and afaik they’re all volunteers.
The whole point is security and privacy, adding whatever phone you have in your pocket for support is a) not realistically possible for them or b) would compromise the entire project due to either how many resources they have or due to the actual hardware of that particular phone.
It’s not stupid, it’s a pretty clever group of people working on GOS. It’s not perfect but that’s what it is right now, I get that Google is an evil company but you can always buy second hand and at the end of the day there’s like maybe one less evil phone company among the many so it’s a problem with just about every phone you’re gonna buy.
I would love to see GrapheneOS on Fairphone, but, you know, asking them to weaken security is a bit like asking Stallman to support proprietary software. Some people don’t compromise on their core mission. Hopefully more phones will start having secure hardware in the future. I think a lot of people value security, sustainability, and degoogling. Right now there’s no hardware where you can get all three.
I got a cheap used Pixel at the tail end of support, it’ll last a few more years. After that I hope there will be more Motorola phones than the currently planned.
Boycott the technology they have forced on humanity. There’s a growing number of basic tasks that require a device and there’s a large portion of the population that just doesn’t care enough to not fall in line.
True, no change can be done without a will that comes from most of the people, but that’s life, somehow you need to feel like a feather moved by other people’s choices.
With how apple shit is treated like divine ambrosia and, in many places, a status symbol, I seriously doubt any boycott against them will have any effect.
Android is like Windows in the 1990s. It’s fucking everywhere and literally too big to boycott. Most OEMs also prefer to play ball with Google and keep the phones locked because it’s profitable for them as well. Boycotting a specific OEM might cause some damage to them, but it won’t budge Google. It’s good that some companies are making phones that ship with more open android clones, but those phones are still too expensive for most people to buy
Is there any way to stop this?
Use graphene OS or deal with the “advanced flow” process once
I understand but the problem is my phone in not supported sadly
Pretty sure only pixels are, but Motorola was working on one. It’s fucking stupid that the only phone they support is manufactured by the company that is causing most of the problem. Their phone sucks too.
I agree I hope something changes in the future
Next flagship Motorola will have official GrapheneOS support. It will be very expensive. After that, hopefully more mid-level Motorola phones will be supported too.
OR - they could dumb down grapheneOS so that it can run on a lot of other phones ?? ? maybe? yes? I get the desire to be able to encrypt the entire drive - that IS important, but I think its more important to get the functionality of graphene provides to more people. A non-google based phone is pointless on only google based hardware.
The point of GOS isn’t to “encrypt the entire drive” though, the whole point is a secure, private and stable platform that actually works. Their team chose Pixel phones because the hardware makes it possible to make it more secure, as in it has specific things in it that many other phones don’t have.
Adding more supported phones would be great, but it would mean having to support that many more configurations and likely sacrificing the main features and stability as it is not a huge team and afaik they’re all volunteers.
The whole point is security and privacy, adding whatever phone you have in your pocket for support is a) not realistically possible for them or b) would compromise the entire project due to either how many resources they have or due to the actual hardware of that particular phone.
It’s not stupid, it’s a pretty clever group of people working on GOS. It’s not perfect but that’s what it is right now, I get that Google is an evil company but you can always buy second hand and at the end of the day there’s like maybe one less evil phone company among the many so it’s a problem with just about every phone you’re gonna buy.
I would love to see GrapheneOS on Fairphone, but, you know, asking them to weaken security is a bit like asking Stallman to support proprietary software. Some people don’t compromise on their core mission. Hopefully more phones will start having secure hardware in the future. I think a lot of people value security, sustainability, and degoogling. Right now there’s no hardware where you can get all three.
I’m more excited for the Linux support efforts on Fairphone tbh, not a fan of Android
The flagship Motorola also sucks, missing a bunch of features that even my $150 Samsung J3 had
The signature 27? Do you mean like headphone jack etc?
SD slot, removable battery, headphone jack (which also comes with an FM radio)
I got a cheap used Pixel at the tail end of support, it’ll last a few more years. After that I hope there will be more Motorola phones than the currently planned.
That’s not really a hardware solution
Not really. The companies will continue removing end-user ownership, even if they move to alternatives. The profits must flow, the number must go up.
If people start to boycott it can make a change
Boycott the technology they have forced on humanity. There’s a growing number of basic tasks that require a device and there’s a large portion of the population that just doesn’t care enough to not fall in line.
True, no change can be done without a will that comes from most of the people, but that’s life, somehow you need to feel like a feather moved by other people’s choices.
Focusing on what we can do is a better choice.
With how apple shit is treated like divine ambrosia and, in many places, a status symbol, I seriously doubt any boycott against them will have any effect.
Android is like Windows in the 1990s. It’s fucking everywhere and literally too big to boycott. Most OEMs also prefer to play ball with Google and keep the phones locked because it’s profitable for them as well. Boycotting a specific OEM might cause some damage to them, but it won’t budge Google. It’s good that some companies are making phones that ship with more open android clones, but those phones are still too expensive for most people to buy
Capitalism made them so big.