• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    Yeah, and tankie shitnuggets can’t even rise to that level of moral duplicity on their best fucking day.

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      58 minutes ago

      What is it that you think tankies do? Historically, tankies formed the Black Panther Party, Party for Socialism and Liberation, and the CPUSA (before they turned reformist). The tankies are regularly on the streets, donating time and money to building a better world.

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        44 minutes ago

        Lol, you think tankies do anything but cheer on the crushing of students with military vehicles and encourage channeling dissent into inaction and subjugation. What a bunch of fucking losers.

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          Do you think the groups I mentioned aren’t tankies, or do you think the majority of people you would describe as tankies aren’t doing what they do? Are you calling the Black Panther Party “a bunch of fucking losers,” or just those that support them?

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            33 minutes ago

            Marxist ideology doesn’t not make one a tankie. Shitposting online to convince people not to pull the levers of power in front of them does.

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              Pretending that choosing between two genocidal imperialist parties is a path to working class power is incompatible with Marxism, though. It would still be incorrect to think electing a socialist party would result in socialism, but it’s astronomically incorrect to think picking between genocidal imperialist parties is a meaningful path to worker liberation.

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                26 minutes ago

                Don’t pretend tankies want “a meaningful path to worker liberation.” I’ve seen the regimes they idolize.

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                  I’m not pretending anything here, I am a socialist, I pay dues. The Black Panther Party supported Vietnam, China, the DPRK, and more:

                  The fact that the socialist left has historically been revolutionary, and supported revolutionary worker governments, is not at all opposed with wanting a meaningful path to worker liberation. To dedicate your time and money to studying theory and history, to organizing in trade unions and tenant unions, to spreading revolutionary consciousness, to party building and cadre training, is to have a firm belief in the necessity of rolling up your sleeves to build a better world.

                  You can disagree with the Marxist left all you want, but to say that we do not want a meaningful path to worker liberation is absurd and not at all reflected in reality.

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          44 minutes ago

          Do you think the groups I mentioned aren’t tankies, or do you think the majority of people you would describe as tankies aren’t doing what they do?

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            35 minutes ago

            CPUSA (before they turned reformist)

            Answered your own fucking question before you even asked it.

            Marxist ideology doesn’t not make one a tankie. Shitposting online to convince people not to pull the levers of power in front of them does.

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              Pretending that choosing between two genocidal imperialist parties is a path to working class power is incompatible with Marxism, though. It would still be incorrect to think electing a socialist party would result in socialism, but it’s astronomically incorrect to think picking between genocidal imperialist parties is a meaningful path to worker liberation.