I started on a Mac, got a bachelor’s degree in IT on a Mac, and have used a Mac professionally in that field for over 20 years.
disclusion is not real science
Since when did this become an autistic trait? I joined the school computer club when I was 14. It started that year with a single IBM PC. We did not load Linux because it didn’t exist for another decade otherwise I’m sure we would have. I have to believe that kind of curiosity and learning still exists without one needing to be autistic. Then again, under current diagnostics for autism, we might all have been on the spectrum since we were all geeks on some level.
Oh yeah? Well I have a hypotenuse too!
Why would it skew results? It’s a study of correlation, not causation.
Because it would add one more variable. “Skew” isn’t really the right word though. It could affect the results in unpredictable ways, discoverable by comparing a separate study done with only autistic kids.
I remember this meme from when the Berlin Wall fell and everyone in the DDR got access to Ubuntu.
Best use of a Mac is to sell it and buy 2 computers to put Linux on.
To fix Windows problems, reboot (and pray)
To fix Linux problems, Be root.Macs can actually be really good linux computers. It’s not always straightforward, but I’ve heard good things once it’s installed.
Anything running Linux can be good of course- just not going to easily convince me that paying double (or more) is rational.
Macbooks aren’t really always overpriced anymore. Macbook neo is among the best value at its price range and m5 Mac air is roughly comparable with other of its tier.
Not sure if either can run Linux yet tho
MacBook supported for 7 years and then no more updates vs 10+ years of support on average.
I guess if you dont mind the forced obsolescence and ewaste, maybe?
I hear Linux runs pretty good on a can opener!
I agree with you but you don’t pay double when you buy an old “obsolete” Mac and install Linux on it. Granted, my computer needs are very basic but my 13 yr old Mac is running better than ever after I got rid of MacOs.
Now I understand you.
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I had a job developing software for datacenter machines’ hardware and software health. And the most common automatic repair that we had was escalating 1. reboot; 2. reinstall OS; 3. check hardware. I know it’s different but it was fun to see it “first-hand”.
And also, “to create Linux problems, be root” works as well.
to create Linux problems, be root
Personal attacks are against community rules.
Hey, if it’s an Intel Mac they run Linux great. I’m using a 2011 iMac running Linux Mint going on two and half years and haven’t had any issues!
(I know that more recent Macs have Asahi Linux, but I’ve not used it and cannot speak to it)
Nice.
I started out on a Coleco Adam. I could play Atari games on it.
My very first was a Sharp PC-1251. I couldn’t run anything on it. 😐
There are dozens of us.
The first 3 computers I ever touched were an Apple II, Apple II e, and a Powemac.
Then I spent a decade in the Windows wilderness. Back and forth… Now safely home to Linux.
Maybe not a good question by itself.
The question really does need to be separated out by era. Are we talking Mac System 7 vs Windows 3.1, Mac OS 9 vs Windows 98, early OS X vs Windows XP, Intel Macs versus Windows 7, ARM Macs vs Windows 10, etc.? Each generation had a different user paradigm, and people who were good with one versus another might mean different things than other generations.
That was definitely back before Apple went crazy with their whole closed ecosystem. Apple II feels a lot more like linux these days considering the amount of documentation available about the hardware. And parts aren’t locked down with serial numbers like in the iPhone…
I had a lot of fun as a kid messing with an Apple IIgs. One of the games I had was “Thexder”, and you can probably guess where I got my username.
thexder and silpheed were both ahead of their times. good memories.
Basically the same here haha
people who grew dealing with classic mac are going to flip a table reading this.
Is Discluded a word? Isn’t that Excluded?
Annie failed English but they change her grade to get her out of their school
She was about to say discarded, then change the route mid sentence.
No no, discluded is for when you exclude someone and diss them at the same time.
Got 'em!
I think it’s one of those flammable/inflammable sort of things.
I wasn’t autistic, I was poor and switching to Linux made old hand-me-down computers work like new. It also frustrated me a lot, but that’s part of the game.
I had to install PC-DOS because Windows didn’t exist.
On my family’s 386, it booted into DOS, which I wasn’t literate enough to figure out at the time, but I knew how to load MS DOS Shell, which was a text-based file GUI I could navigate to launch DOS programs, or I could run Windows 3.1 to play Castle of the Winds. (And I was aware Windows has other purely theoretical uses. It was only necessary for Castle of the Winds.)
I remember when my aunt got us a 320MB hard drive loaded with shareware games. That was life changing.
I was definitely autistic, as it turns out.
I have full time Linux users on my team. I fix their code all day and go home to use all 3 os’s.
Using Linux means you like tinkering, not that your smarter or more capable.
I’m an Ubuntu user and don’t give a shit about tinkering or being smart. I just like that it’s faster than Microsoft and isn’t Microsoft. Also when windows needs to update it’s a whole thing. Fuck a whole thing. Apple products are also stupid.
In my case, I used Linux because I didn’t like being spied on. I also didn’t like ads and I hated my settings being reverted after Windows updates. Fuck Windows. It’s an OS that doesn’t understand consent.
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Liking to tinker things is somewhat correlated to being more capable or even smarter, though; I mean, you can’t tinker if you’re not capable and/or don’t know how to do it.
With LLMs you can theoretically tinker, but in my experience, 90% of the output will be hallucinated.
Can you fix a carb? Or replace your fuel injector? What about build a small table for your home? Run a Cnc? Maybe you don’t tinker enough then.
Your hobby makes you more capable in your hobby.
And your take and experience on llm’s is trash. The models are excellent coders and simply need context. There are only a few specific domains where they don’t produce excellent code. They aren’t going away in tech. There will be a middle ground where they are used.
I am a full time Linux user and nobody fixes my code ever, can you explain this?
Is this sarcasm? God damn I was a bit riled.
In the case that I’m actually not understanding your confusion, I’m a Staff engineer for 15 or so devs. Everyone makes mistakes (myself included) and everyone is fluent on nix systems.
But I’m running Colima and podman on osx because it’s a vastly easier os to use in a work environment. I’d choose windows + wsl over native desktop nix. And it has nothing to do with my capabilities.
I’m a linux user, can you please fix my code?
I’m sure sometimes your code needs fixing.
But this whole thread is a bait. zzzzzzz
The question the OOP is getting at isn’t about being smarter or more capable. It’s about knowing how to probem solve, which is itself about feeling like it’s ok to tinker.
I’ve been using linus for like 27 years or so, but I don’t think I’ve been tinkering with my desktop for 20 years. Tinkering with my servers of course.
I’ve been using linus for like 27 years or so
New honeypot just dropped?!
Has he been using Finnish or Canadian Linus?
Do you have ethical stock of the canadian one? Or is it all day old?
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