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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    Yeah but the communists didn’t manage it. Far right authoritarians like Putin, Bin Laden, and the heritage foundation did

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      What ideology they claim to believe in is inconsequential.

      Do you think of China as being actually communist?

      I don’t.

      Russians managed it. No matter what -ism was or is in fashion.

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        Ok but it was a multinational front by a shared ideology. Sure Russia just wanted us weakened regardless of professed ideology, but there’s a reason putin was more able than kruschev. Bin Laden played a huge role in this though. And the long standing American fascist movement wasn’t being egged on by the 1950s Soviets.

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          Nonetheless, Trump is Putler’s lapdog and thus Russia has done what Khrushchev said the Soviet Union would do.

          And to pretend like those are two completely distinct political entities would be bad-faith at best.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

          Allegedly Trump has been cultivated and recruited since 1977.

          Back then it was the Soviet Union. Back then Putin was working for KGB as an intelligence officer and did so for 16 years, before resigning when Soviet Union fell, to have a political career.