I have been using Linux as my daily driver for quite some time (around 5-6 years) and usually manage to get whatever needs to be done. However, I now wish to learn it in a more structured manner, which includes understanding utilities and the workings of Linux. What resources should I look out for?

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    3 hours ago

    Highly recommend this wargame challenge from over the wire. It makes you think and also feels like hacking. Youre just using linux commands to find passwords but the skills transfer to heaps of usage across systems. It can be a little beginner-ish though.

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    https://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/lpic-1-overview/

    Free PDFs, touches on the topics and actually shows you the commands, gives you exercises + further info. It will never be an end-all-be-all but it’s a start if you’re looking to learn something. It really all depends on what you’re trying to get out of it I figure. If you’re trying to be a sysadmin, then everybody else will have a different answer.

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    I would look for something interactive e.g LFS but in containers (or VM or WASM VM) with checkpoints with instructions, something risk free yet hands on.

    Not for books.

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      i will add that using something like arch linux is unironically good to get a feel for how it clicks together without doing it all from complete scratch.

      despite the usual stability caveats (and please do backups), it is a daily-driveable system you can learn on.

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          As much as a very vocal subgroup hates to admit, systemd is a pretty core aspect of modern Linux.

          That said if you really want to learn an alt init system gentoo lets you pick, and I think Slackware is still sans systemd.

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              It really depends on what init system you want to learn.

              Right now, you’re learning BSD init. Which is not the same as the non-sysd init systems in use on Linux. Perfectly fine system mind you and they share some overlap with their Linux cousins.

              • That’s what I’m finding, there’s some overlap but not enough that I can confidently administer the system yet. I’ve had the FreeBSD Handbook open in links for days 😅.

                I’m starting to get the hang of things, there’s a few things I wish there were analogs for on FreeBSD that I’ve used on Linux for modifying swappiness and other minutiae but I suppose eventually I’ll know enough to be the change I wanna see in the world and just write the kernel extension to do it myself.

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          you can use many init systems on gentoo and its also good for the purpose!

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      I agree, nothing made this stick better to me and help me understand networking more than building my own homelab and configuring a bunch of different services together.

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    Try your local library - one of the most underrated free resources.

    Nearly every lib I’ve been to had at least a couple of decent linux books, so you can just snoop around and check out which ones you like.

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      Recommending the library when someone is asking for information on a specific topic is almost as helpful as pointing them to a search engine. “Just google it and use whichever result you like”.

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        What? No.

        At least in all the libraries I’ve been to in my life there is a dedicated section for operating systems, which contains a subsection with just Linux books. You can ask the receptionist “Where is the Linux section?”, walk up to it and there it is. And you can grab a book and skim through it to see whether it suits you.

        How is that not information on exactly that specific topic?


        Genuine question:

        Have you ever been to a library when looking for something specific? Was your experience vastly different from mine?

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          Publishing a physical book is expensive, publishing a website is dirt cheap. For the publisher and author of a book it’s much more imperative to release good content that people will want to read, cover to cover. You can find more extensive, in-depth, and up-to-date content on the Internet but where exactly and is the info all in one place? Websites are also often made with the assumption you’ll jump around or that you know what you’re looking for. If you’re learning something new it’s often best to have a linear, paved path and not be your own guide.

          Edit: Someone else said it first but I was trying to say library books are “curated” in a roundabout way.

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          You can ask the receptionist “Where is the Linux section?”, walk up to it and there it is. And you can grab a book and skim through it to see whether it suits you.

          You can also go to google, ask “How linux works” and skim through the results.

          I’m not saying libraries are bad, they’re obviously amazing (and yes, I’ve been to libraries lol). However, in these sort of questions OP is usually looking for personal recommendations, something that you already read, heard about or found interesting to share. Yes library has books, but which book would you personally recommend OP to read? Which one do you like the best and why?

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            I’ve read whats in libraries, it is usually way better than what you find on google and my personal recommendation is to look at the available selection and pick one that personally suits yourself instead of getting recommendations which suit other people. Thats what I personally like best and why.

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        24 hours ago

        Usually a library is curated, while the internet isn’t. Idk I usually have a good time there. It’s an amount of books on the shelf I can still manage. If it’s multiple, I grab the 5-10 or so books, walk to a table and skim the table of content and a few pages, see which one has the info I was looking for and has a style of writing I like. (And isn’t outdated.) I regularly find Linux or programming books that way. And they all have some minimum standard in the library so I’ll find something within 5-10minutes.

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    You are probably approaching this from the wrong angle. Linux, and computers in general, are tools. Figure out what you want to use it for, and then do it. One example would be to build a homelab with jellyfin and nextcloud.

    On the path to that goal, you’ll find problems and tasks for which there exists very nice structured resources. For example, you might want some security, a perfect opportunity to read a book on networking and firewalls.

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      I disagree. Sometime, a structured approach allows to discover things you don’t even know exist

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        Structured approach to what? You don’t take a structured approach to a hammer, you use it as a tool to accomplish something.

        ”The Linux Programming Interface” is an excellent book, if you are interested in interacting with the Linux kernel directly, but somehow I doubt that’s what OP wants to do. I doubt OP knows what he wants to do.

        Besides, please note that I did encourage taking a structured approach to stuff discovered on the way. But taking a structured approach to ”Linux” is just a bad idea, it’s far to broad of a topic.

        Edit: RedHat has their certification programs. These are certainly structured. You’ll get to know RedHat and the RedHat^{TM} certified way of doing things. That’s probably the closest thing to what OP wants. You even get a paper at the end if you pay up. This is not the most efficient way to get proficient.

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            23 hours ago

            Fine, take the structured approach to ”Linux”:

            • 3-5 years of university studies with a well designed curriculum, including operating systems basics, networking, security, data structures and compilers. This will get you the basic stuff you need to know to further delve into ”Linux”.
            • Add MIT’s ”Missing Semester” online course. This will get you more proficient in practice.
            • Go grab a RedHat certification (or don’t, it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on). This will ensure you have a paper certifying you are sufficiently indoctrinated. It’s also a structured course in Linux.
            • Go do stuff with your newly acquired knowledge and gradually build up your competences.

            If that investment seems a bit steep, take only the last step, build a homelab and take a structured approach to any interesting subjects you encounter doing that.

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      This is a perfect valid approach though ! My first few years in self-hosting I learned soooo many things: CLI, Shell, scripting, networking, containers…

      Doing my own AV1 encodes I learned alot about audio/video processing, metadata, ffmpeg, av1an…

      Maybe not as structured as OP asked for, but there’s way to much to learn in the OS world that a whole life is not sufficient to have it all ! However, following that said goal, you will learn alot arround other stuff and improve overall.

      If your goal is to learn the Linux system and all the nitty gritty arround it, good luck :/ it takes more than 1 person to make an OS work, so understanding all the bells and whistle is just crazy IMO !

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        21 hours ago

        Honestly, this is the best way to learn almost anything: Start a project. When you don’t know how to do something, look it up. Repeat until you die.

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    The book that got me started was “friheden til at vælge Linux” (Freedom to choose Linux), at the time it was available in other languages, but I can only find the Danish version online:
    https://linuxbog.dk/ (last updated in 2020)

    When I started my LPIC I bought the “LPIC-1 in depth”., it’s a bit dry but very thorough.

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    What do you consider a structured approach? Are you after something with video lessons and lesson plans or do you just want to be thrown ideas about what to research?
    If the latter, here’s some ideas:

    • What are kernel modules?
    • How do kernel drivers and kernel modules differ?
    • What are daemons in Linux?
    • How to use crond?