I think this warrants a fediverse wide boycott of all piefed/fedia instances until this is rectified.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    Omg dude we get it stop spamming this. We know. That is not what this is about.

    If someone runs an instance that has manually unblocked us cool but that is not what this is about and you are clearly the one not registering what I am pointing out here

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      You are presenting this like the baked in code forces one-way federation, when it’s clear that the admins can update this later.

      Example of two Piefed instances that currently federate hexbear:

      List of Piefed instances that currently defederate hexbear:

      https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list

      As you can see, instances defederating hexbear are instances managed by teams which were going to do so anyway, as they already did on Lemmy.

      Instances who want to federate know how to do so, there are three examples.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        Yes but I am saying we should block at least any that have this one directional federation. You are putting impressive effort into missing the point.

        Edit: And thankfully we apparently just did.

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            Oh my god please shut the fuck up. No it is not. You are being an annoying pedantic little piece of shit you do get that right? You fucking know what I am complaining about here and you keep posting this “welll AAAACKSHUALLLLLY”.

            Let me spell this out for you one last fucking time:

            “federation” in spirit is the sharing of content BETWEEN instances and is intended as a two way affair. Piefed instances default to blocking any and all traffic from hexbear or lemmygrad and thus there is no way to know if being federated with those instances is actually allowing mutual communication unless tested and therefore without explicit prior statement that the instance owner has gone in and removed the malicious coding nobody should federate with them at all.

            Finally and what this entire post is about: I am calling for everyone, not just hexbear, to defederate and block piefed on principle because their devs are deliberately trying to worsen the entire concept of the fediverse by trying to enforce their fascist ideology through blocking dissent through their code.

            It is underhanded and dishonest and a shameful display of liberalism aiding fascism.

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              The behavior you demonstrate here is exactly why hexbear is so widely blocked, and it makes it difficult for those of us trying to keep the infrastructure less opinionated when this is how you behave when you have a legitimate grievance

            • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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              thus there is no way to know if being federated with those instances is actually allowing mutual communication unless tested

              There is, I linked to the /instances pages that show which instances are federated or not above

              You fucking know what I am complaining about here and you keep posting this “welll AAAACKSHUALLLLLY”.

              You seem to be misunderstanding that defederation being one way is new. I literally used a comment from another hexbear user above clarifying this.

              If you want to complain about Piefed having a default defederation list, feel free, but don’t start to question the way defederation has been working between instances for years.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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                default defederation list,

                THAT IS WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT DUMBASS

                Please kindly stop your pedantic bullshit and actually engage with the subject instead of endlessly trying to well ackshually out of it.

                I swear to fucking god. I am not “misunderstanding” anything and your smug condescending tone just makes me want to shove your nerd ass into a locker.

                • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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                  THAT IS WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT DUMBASS

                  Then call it like this instead of pretending that Piefed’s implementation of defederation isn’t standard.