So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:
- Reviews are mixed: not a great start
- Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
- 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
- 175 euros DLC’s: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there’s another 175 fees for content?
- purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?
And they don’t understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.
This is just a random example. I’ve quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.
To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)
I got Necesse too! It was about 6 bucks. Can’t beat that price. Runs on a potato also.
I should play that again, probably start a new world/char because so much has changed since I got it almost 4 years ago.
- Reviews are mixed: not a great start
Agreed, puts a damper on everything else that follows.
- Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
Also agreed. If I buy a Steam game, I’d generally much rather it be accessible through Steam and do not appreciate when games are sold on Steam for other platforms.
- 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
Not the worst price, but yeah I’d definitely expect a much better review score to justify that price. In the absence of a good review score this would be something I’d have to know I’m going to enjoy before I’d consider buying it full price.
- 175 euros DLC’s: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there’s another 175 fees for content?
I don’t know for certain about this particular game, but I do know people were shitting on Monster Hunter: Rise for the exact same reason: a seemingly exorbitant amount of DLC available from release implying it’s a cash grab and just trying to milk more cash out of the player.
That being said, in my opinion MHR wasn’t even half as bad as the naysayers would have you believe. MHR on release on Steam had a lot of DLC, sure, but it didn’t launch on Steam. It launched on the Switch then later was ported to Steam with all of the same DLC they had worked on since its launch a year prior.
Almost all of the DLC was exclusively cosmetic skins, and almost all of those were part of bundles available for significantly cheaper prices than each one individually. I don’t recall the exact prices but I believe it was something like buy 10 skins individually for $2/ea or buy all of them in a bundle for $5. The real price for any sane person for all 10 skins would be $5, but this showed up on Steam as 11 DLC items with a total of $25. Multiply this by the 6-10 ish bundles they had on the title’s release on Steam to get a huge quantity of items and a massively inflated price compared to what anyone who wanted everything would realistically pay, assuming they paid attention.
I don’t know that CoD is doing a similar thing here, and I certainly wouldn’t give them the benefit of the doubt, but I dislike this argument against them because it can be very misleading.
- purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?
Not necessarily P2W, but yeah I’m not a fan of MTX either and again wouldn’t give CoD the benefit of the doubt to have a good or fair monetization model.
Why would anybody support genocidal imperial propaganda in their home?
I made that mistake years ago with COD. Never again.
Short answer: you wouldn’t buy this game, given your valid criticisms.
This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don’t understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.
Why would I buy this?
I can only think of one reason, because it’s the game your friends are playing.
You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don’t buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.
It’s CoD. You’re asking why people drink coke if you don’t like coke.
Also, steam FPS reviews are full of people on full tilt. Use better review sources.
Nah, cod is an objectively bad game. Fight me
I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.
Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)…
I think that fighting games are in a much better place with the season passes(character DLC) than previously.
They are a much more long term game, with better balance patches and additions through mechanics to the game. Tekken 7 for example was supported for 7 years and you can jump in with just the base game. This also applies to other games like Street Fighter 5 and 6, Guilty Gear Strive and so on.
Where as if you go back to Street fighter 4 as an example, The support was limited and then they added more with a new game, Super Street Fighter 4, which then got replaced with Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you could not play someone who had Super if you only had Ultra which sucked for the online community.
I do think there is a lot of issues with where Fighting Games are going, but that is more an industry thing. Like battle passes, avatar clothes and other shit as micro transactions.
Well, maybe you are right. But still it feels wrong putting fighters that exist since 1995+ as paid DLC content (or almost half of your fighters are paid locked). Also if you want the whole package it costs you almost double money. I don’t need support, i need a fine product from day one that has everything like BG3, E33, and many indie games. They just want to make games like a service and not products.
While you may not need support for the game. The games would not do as well as they do without it. They are predominantly an online multiplayer game. I am no the biggest Tekken fan, but I am a pretty big fan of Street Fighter, I have over 1000 hours on SF6. If it didnt have the good online multiplayer, and just had just had the offline and single player stuff, I would have something like 100 hours maybe and would have moved on to other games.
And that makes a big difference, to how much I am willing to buy into both characters and costumes, and also the next game.
Tekken 8 and SF6 still have good(for fighting games) single player stuff, but you are looking at a simple story and some arcade modes. SF6 has a bit more of a single player RPG almost for its single player, and I have managed to sink around 80 hours into that, they add more with each new character and I believe it is free.
And to go back to Tekken, Tekken 3 had 22 characters, While Tekken 7 had 36, which then increases to 51 if you add in the addition characters, Tekken 8 currently has ~40 with more being added. They are fine games, with all the content that you want(mostly) in the base game, but the biggest difference between Tekken 3 and Tekken 7 or 8 is it isnt being replaced in a couple years by a new full priced game, it is getting patches and support, additional mechanics and moves, new characters. And the online/competitive community can thrive.
I don’t know. I prefer to unlock characters through playing the game, not with my wallet.
Also you can have 2 different games with 25 fighters each every 4 years, versus having 1 game with 50 fighters for 7 years with the same money as 2 games. I just prefer the 1st option.
Just support the game for 2-3 years and make a better one after. If you need money for the support put DLC with soundtracks and artwork.
Is there volleyball?
Tekken 8 has Volley ball. Tekken 7 got Bowling but that was as a DLC.
When i checked no (Tekken 7). But they released Tekken 8 last year, so maybe they added it (hopefully not in DLC).
I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣
There are lots of valid abbreviations that CP uses other than child porn.
And it will never not be funny
I can see somebody inquiring about the amount someone has, and if they would be willing to share any. Boom. On a list.
Ah it’s very simple, you would buy this if you’d made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.
And even then there’s Battlefield 1 which got all the content unlocked now, is fairly cheap, the servers are going strong, and it’s really really fun.
There is plenty of shit on steam that I wouldn’t buy, just don’t buy it
Bro. How could you do that and not post to tell other people the things they like are wrong?
It’s not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.
Reviews are mixed: not a great start
More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It’s basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So “mixed” means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn’t, which is quite damning.
When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol
I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it’s just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I’ve felt this year.
Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.
Ooo I stumbled across this yesterday, peaked my interest and I bought it. Looks interesting, can’t wait to play it!
I’m at 60hrs and counting. Started new char and world for 1.0 as well as play with my bud and so far we’ve basically caught up to where my pre1.0 save was at.
That’s really nice! I’m finding it hard to start a proper game, I need some motivation. Hopefully a friend of mine has time to play together :)
DM me if you fail to find friends to play with, they also have a discord server and I see folks playing in there basically daily.
Unsurprising, it’s not for anyone but those who spend a lot to be able to frag the other one.
I stopped playing MMOs and online shooters a long time ago. Instead dividing my time between actual cycling and playing single player adventure games.
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