I want to create a hobby project and release it under MIT. I work as a developer professionally and i have some clauses in my employment contract that gives any IP to my employer. My employer is open to amending these and/or adding exceptions for specific projects. Can anyone point to guidance resources on how to formulate such exceptions properly?

// EDIT: My contract is not totally strict, it refers to applicable laws and the wording is something like ‘knowledge gained through company activities belong to the company’, which is probably intentionally vague. Also: i like my job and employer and they are open to FOSS. My only concern is whether some higherups might disagree at a later point which is why i want to get the wording right. Will not spend money on a lawyer - it’s not that important to me. Thanks for sharing your experiences so far.

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  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    Bad idea from the start. Anything you make on company equipment belongs to the company. You signed and approved that. Changing that only opens up liability for the company and so even if they do approve it it will be worded against you. If you push anyway to the open source project then that opens the door for your company to attempt to claim ownership too. All around it’s a lose lose situation for you, and the project.

    Coding does not require a supercomputer. Go pick up a used laptop somewhere and do the work off of that.

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      Anything you make on company equipment belongs to the company

      do you actually know this or are you just assuming this is the law in denmark? or even the eu?

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        I mean, I’ve just worked at multiple international companies while residing in multiple countries and each one has made me sign this. It’s a no brainer. Don’t use company equipment for personal projects.

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          this beeing in a contract does not mean it is enforceable. sounds like you are just assuming it is like this

          edit: not to mention that the person you replied to said they dont even have a strongly worded contract in the first place like this

          edit2: what i mean like it sounds like you are just guessing, and not knowing.

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            Enforceable is a level of risk that we can’t decide for the OP. If there is any chance of enforcement that is a chance of them taking credit for OPs work, or other financial issues. Not to mention lawyers are expensive, even if it’s not enforceable, is OP willing to pay for legal fees to prove it?

            Personally, even if it’s not enforceable and they’re completely morally justified the question remains, why open yourself up to any risk at all by using company equipment when you can literally use any other computer to do the work?

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              oh i mean i too do like and support the advice to just not use the laptop for it

              i just feel like that ~ anything made with company equipment belongs to the company ~ is not the law in denmark or in (some parts) eu, and multiple people made it sound like it is, so i just kind of wanted to know if they actually know this certainly (and your comment was most upvoted)🤷‍♂️

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                I get that. As another example, here where I live they made non compete contracts illegal, but I still sign one every time I start a new company. I assume they aren’t enforceable at all, but knowing lawyers they will argue some other loophole at me. For me it’s just not worth the risk of possibly needing to pay for lawyers