• Tiger666@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    17 hours ago

    Some men don’t wash their asses because they think it’s gay.

    They don’t wash their asses and think that is not a problem.

    Homophobia is literally disgusting.

  • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    18 hours ago

    I’m a straight man that went to a gay bar with a bunch of lesbian friends and got hit on by a very feminine gay man. He like the way I dressed and how well I was put together.

    It was such a confidence boost and made me very happy.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    1 day ago

    One of my coworkers loved to make “i bet so-and-so is gay, look at how he does stuff” joke remarks. I once had the chance to joke back: “Dunno man, you spend a LOT of time thinking about how he’s gay, you’re always paying attention to him, you’re always talking about him, that’s pretty gay of you” - That made him stop with those while I’m around, at least.

    • REDACTED@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      1 day ago

      Whenever I hear a homophobe in real life start talking about gays, I usually just say “Since I’m not gay, I don’t mentally think about what other men do in bed or with their dicks, but you do you”. Sounds better in my language, I’m sure you can make it sound more punchy

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 day ago

        I’m 99% certain that homophobia stems from dudes being gay/bi but brought up in a “conservative” environment, so there’s a clash between what they secretly want and what they perceive as wrong.

      • ebolapie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        “You sure talk about men a lot…”

        I didn’t say anything about your sexuality, I’m just wondering if you have any other hobbies besides thinking about men.

  • OmegaMouse@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    126
    ·
    2 days ago

    Nothing makes me want to suck dick more than seeing someone put a bottle into the correct recycling bin :3

    • papasan_mamasan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      41
      ·
      2 days ago

      It also makes you more appealing to women but the men don’t know that because Joe Rogan won’t invite a woman on his podcast to talk about it

      • ieatpwns@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        37
        ·
        2 days ago

        Appealing to women is gay. They’re soft and flowery not hard and tight like a big strongman

          • Almacca@aussie.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            Is he? That’s a shame. I haven’t seen any of his recent stuff, but what little I’ve seen of him I’ve always enjoyed. What happened?

            • Zombie@feddit.uk
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 day ago

              I don’t know how to say this without doxxing myself so I guess all I can really say is some of his latest material borders on bigotry but doesn’t go far enough for you to be sure, and it could just be an ill thought out edgy routine. But I’ve spent a night drinking with him, and it’s not an edgy routine.

        • socsa@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          I mean, you suck a dick that’s just one dick. You kiss a woman, and you are kissing every dick which has ever been in that mouth.

    • socsa@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      Fellas, is it gay to ingest external stimuli to guide your personal decision making framework?

    • frunch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 days ago

      At very least, giving a shit makes you “woke” and the intent is the same as when they use gay as a slur (at least as far as i can follow their logic)

  • MoonMelon@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    2 days ago

    The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy men of the Western world stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    2 days ago

    I use a reusable bag because I’m not paying an extra 40p every time I go fucking shopping.

  • Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    67
    ·
    2 days ago

    This for me is the weird cishet paradox. So afraid to look “weak”, that they obsess over not looking weak. But you know what looks super weak? Being insecure about being weak. Like, the more you have to prove you’re a big tough guy, the less big and tough you seem.

    Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek.

    • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      2 days ago

      Yeah, in the 1950s you were a big tough guy if you wore all leather and had tattoos.

      Now you might be a tough biker dude, sure, or you might be a power bottom with a kink.

    • FishFace@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      2 days ago

      I think you’re imagining this as a more conscious process than it actually is. The reason you need to go out and research this is because these men aren’t going around saying, “yeah, I was going to put my pepsi can in the metal recycling but I was worried my bro would call me gay so I just put it in the general waste.” Instead, sometimes men put pepsi cans in general waste, and sometimes men do things due to social perceptions, and sometimes those social perceptions are that certain things are “unmanly” and working out which things are related to each other is quite hard.

      So there’s no paradox here. All people are subject to social pressures, and the vast majority of people make some effort to conform to those pressures in order to fit in and to receive approval from the people they value. Conforming to fit in isn’t “weak” or “insecure”, it’s the nature of being a social animal, and is done instinctively - if you think it’s done “obsessively” then you’re imposing the analytical mindset of someone studying the evidence on the subjects of the research, which is a fundamental error. It’d be like saying someone who subconsciously mirrors the mannerisms of someone they respect is “obsessed” with getting their approval, when they likely don’t realise they’re doing it.

      Also, I feel like they’ve never considered that gay doesn’t necessarily mean effeminate. Or even that effeminate doesn’t necessarily mean weak/meek.

      They almost certainly haven’t because, again, if you’re “considering” it, it’s not the right concept. The concept that people are trying to avoid is the one that’s labeled “gay” by their peers, which is really more of a gender thing than a sexuality thing; “what are you, gay?” isn’t a question about someone’s sexuality, it’s a suggestion that someone is not conforming to the gender role expected of them. You can’t successfully challenge that by saying “ackshually gay people can be v strong and they forget to put the pepsi can in the correct bin far more often than you might imagine.” They’ll just reply with, “OK bro sounds pretty gay,” because you didn’t challenge them on what they meant, only on what you thought they meant.

      The challenge has to be more along the lines of creating a better awareness of societal expectations, tolerance of people who don’t conform to them, and building up positive associations between behaviours we want to promote and conforming things people already value, to help them see things in a new light.

    • socsa@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      I am convinced that there is legitimately a genetic cognitive deficit which makes people think this way, because it is just so obvious and transparent to me that it can’t be an accident.

    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      This is all subconscious shit that marketers have to deal with. There’s a good article about it here. What bothers me is not knowing what unconscious biases like this that I have.

      One thing that I do is randomly select varieties of things that I buy (wrt color, scent, etc.) I can’t think of a time that I’ve ever regretted doing that.