• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, neat math, but biology isn’t a group project where everyone gets an equal share. Female birth control exists because it’s actually doable. One egg a month is easy to manage, shutting down millions of sperm without wrecking everything else? Not so much.

    And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp. Meanwhile, women have been tanking those side effects for decades just to keep the rest of us from multiplying like rabbits.

    So no, science didn’t “target the wrong gender.” It just went with the one that could handle it.

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      And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp.

      This is false, it’s based on a single study and twists facts. Some participants dropped out because of side effects, but those not dropping out said they would actually continue using the pill if it were available. The study was stopped because one participant tried to kill himself.

      https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects

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        No it wasn’t just one study. The 2016 WHO trial is just the one that got the headlines because it made for a catchy story. There were several other male birth control studies going back to the 80s and 90s where men dropped out because they didn’t want to deal with the side effects. Things like acne mood swings and injection pain.

        In the WHO study around twenty out of three hundred twenty men quit over side effects. Earlier trials saw the same thing a few percent tapping out for the same reasons.

        So no it wasn’t some isolated case. It’s been a recurring theme across decades of research. The numbers are small but it’s there. Pretending otherwise just tells me you stopped reading after the first article title.

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          Earlier trials saw the same thing a few percent tapping out for the same reasons.

          A fee percent is quite different from what you said earlier. Basically any trial has a few percent drop out.

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          If you did a trial for a new pill for women you bet there will be some who will drop out because of side effects like acne or mood swings, that’s expected to some degree. The thing with that trial for the male pill is, that people always twist it into sounding like the study was cancelled because of some people dropping out over these side effects, but it wasn’t.

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      Without wrecking everything else

      Women have been taking the sid effects

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      Then the just and equitable thing to do would be to shift some of that burden to men to make things easier for the women that aren’t able to “tank” the side effects that can include some life-threatening complications.

      I would also like to point out that the leading cause of death of pregnant people in America is intimate partner homicide, so the dangers of pregnancy can also be directly caused by the male partners. Y’all need to toughen the fuck up and get your shit together to do your damn part of preventing unwanted pregnancy and calling out the bad behavior of your peers that eventually escalates to things like rape or intimate partner homicide.