i am reminded that if “social media” didn’t devolve we’d have organized and come together to solve (crisis upon crisis) already and politicians would’ve had a digital polling station and direct communication with the populace.

instead Facebook Twitter YouTube is what it is.

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    @iloveDigit Nostr’s unique features are their biggest enemy as well. To be completely uncensorable sounds nice, but on the same side open all floodgates for spam, massive harassment towards some groups of people or individuals and also content that is considered illegal in most countries (like child porn).

    It may work in a rather small bubble, but will never work on a large scale.

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      Then you’re really saying the internet is dying faster than it can develop. I think that’s just psychologically defensive defeatism, tied to stuff like saying humans can’t survive climate change

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        What on Earth? Where did they say anything remotely like what you describe?

        If by your definition the internet is “dead” if it can’t be full of unmoderated spam, racism/bigotry and astroturfing then I’ll cheer the death of your “internet”

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          If humans can avoid extinction and keep the internet online for a long enough time, it shouldn’t be too hard for them to eventually figure out censorship is bad

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            Intentional community building isnt censorship, and a lack of moderation isnt intentional community building. It’s a cesspool with no drain.

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              What does that have to do with the context where you’re replying? I was talking about censorship, not community building / spam filtering

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                The “censorship” you’re referring to is what real online communities commonly refer to as moderation. Moderation is a direct form of influencing or “building” community in online spaces. Unmoderated (or uncensored as you put it) online spaces always necessarily become filled with bigotry, slurs, and Nazis.

                That’s the conversation we’re having with you, even though you seem to want to talk about the same subject in a manner that doesnt match with reality.

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                  Seems like you’re trying to bait me into a response that could be used as an excuse to ban me. Try this bullshit on nostr if you can handle talking somewhere you can’t just ban people who stand up to your bullying.

                  If you copy and paste your reply to me on nostr, I’ll be happy to explain the basic English definitions you’re asking me for (instead of a dictionary) while insulting my intelligence, but I’ll also insult yours back in a more appropriate way.

                  Edit - you obviously won’t actually reply on nostr, because you’re an authoritarian bully, but if you did, I’d feel a bit proven wrong about you and not immediately say anything I’d get banned for. It’s only here, that I want to say anything I’d get banned here for. Kind of a catch 22 type thing

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                    Beehaw’s only rule is to bee nice. Surely anything that violates that rule isn’t worth any of our time to read.

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                    Idk what’s up with your apparent obsession with being banned, but if that’s a problem for you - maybe you should reconsider the way you interact with people on the internet.

                    It’s really not hard to avoid bans in most spaces. Just follow the rules. Each Lemmy community has a helpful sidebar where the rules are detailed.

                    My whole point is that removing abusive and hateful content isnt censorship, its responsible moderation. Any online community that allows hate speech is not a community I want anything to do with. If you let Nazis in your bar, you have a Nazi bar.