This is historically the case in Japan (birds and fish/seafood not being considered “meat”/animals when it comes to eating them). It started with Buddhism proscribing a meat-free diet, with that being impractical for the vast majority of the population unless some animals were still okay to eat.
i’m guessing it’s some old kind of classification idea, where only furry things are counted as animals, so not stupid per se, just an outdated thing people were taught decades ago
It’d be more like a century and a half… I’m guessing it might be from the places that teach creationism, if there’s no evolution there’s no tree to clarify things into I guess. It’s very sad
It’s annoying as shit though, in some countries when you ask if a restaurant has vegetarian options and it turns out they mean the ones with chicken because they don’t consider chickens animals.
I was staying with my aunt and uncle in France when I was around sixteen, after about 12 years of vegetarianism, due mainly to my squeamishness, and we went to my aunt’s mother in law’s (my grandmother/great aunt in law?) for dinner. My aunt was desperate for me to behave perfectly because of some family drama I was too young for and made me promise to eat the dinner.
My uncle’s mother was a rural French woman born in ~1910 who was not familiar with the concept of vegetarianism (or maybe she was being an asshole to my aunt, but she seemed very sweet to me, just extremely formal), so she prepared whole rabbits just for me to avoid all of the examples my aunt listed.
I don’t know if you’ve ever seen or eaten rabbit meat, but it looks like a dead cat with tons of tiny bones and tastes oppressively gamey and greasy. I know how it tastes because I’m a fucking bro, but it was awful. I couldn’t eat the whole portion I was given, but we implied that I had my period, which she accepted and changed the conversation topic asap.
Could be, but honestly, even if it was great, I wouldn’t have been into it. It really looked like a cat and I stopped eating meat at age 4, so anything other than chicken breast would probably be too gamey for me.
yeah, even my father in law, a farmer, argued with me honey isn’t animal product because it’s made by bees, i guess it’s similar to the meaning of “alcohol”, for normal people it’s an alcoholic drink, mainly hard liqor, for a chemist it’s everything with a Carbon connected OH group, not only ethanol or methanol, but also menthol, sorbitol or even cholesterol
That’s pretty normal, historically-speaking. The modern classification system isn’t really very old compared to how long we’ve been talking about animals.
Exactly! Everyone in this tread is hating on people that just learned a different “truth”. In 50 years everyone here will be wrong about something as fundamental as the animal kingdom and insist on being right. Science advances and previous truths become false.
There is also the aspect of biological classification not being very useful for everyday live. Do people go “uhm actachully biologically fish don’t exist” every time they see a meal advertised as “fish …”. People can have a concept of “animal” that is different from the taxonomy. And classifying mammals+reptiles+amphibian(+birds) as something different than fish and different than insects is a pretty reasonable classification (based on phenotype and not on phylogeny)
same with birds, like some (old) people don’t count them as animals where i live
This is historically the case in Japan (birds and fish/seafood not being considered “meat”/animals when it comes to eating them). It started with Buddhism proscribing a meat-free diet, with that being impractical for the vast majority of the population unless some animals were still okay to eat.
Today I learned about a whole new type of stupid I didn’t even know existed 😩
i’m guessing it’s some old kind of classification idea, where only furry things are counted as animals, so not stupid per se, just an outdated thing people were taught decades ago
It’d be more like a century and a half… I’m guessing it might be from the places that teach creationism, if there’s no evolution there’s no tree to clarify things into I guess. It’s very sad
I would be more inclined to believe that it is due to the archaic Linnaean classification
Even Linnaeus classified everything as “animal vegetable or mineral”
It’s annoying as shit though, in some countries when you ask if a restaurant has vegetarian options and it turns out they mean the ones with chicken because they don’t consider chickens animals.
I was staying with my aunt and uncle in France when I was around sixteen, after about 12 years of vegetarianism, due mainly to my squeamishness, and we went to my aunt’s mother in law’s (my grandmother/great aunt in law?) for dinner. My aunt was desperate for me to behave perfectly because of some family drama I was too young for and made me promise to eat the dinner.
My uncle’s mother was a rural French woman born in ~1910 who was not familiar with the concept of vegetarianism (or maybe she was being an asshole to my aunt, but she seemed very sweet to me, just extremely formal), so she prepared whole rabbits just for me to avoid all of the examples my aunt listed.
I don’t know if you’ve ever seen or eaten rabbit meat, but it looks like a dead cat with tons of tiny bones and tastes oppressively gamey and greasy. I know how it tastes because I’m a fucking bro, but it was awful. I couldn’t eat the whole portion I was given, but we implied that I had my period, which she accepted and changed the conversation topic asap.
It sounds like your great aunt just doesn’t know how to cook rabbit.
Could be, but honestly, even if it was great, I wouldn’t have been into it. It really looked like a cat and I stopped eating meat at age 4, so anything other than chicken breast would probably be too gamey for me.
That’s definitely fair. I’ve never eaten a whole rabbit, but I’ve had it cooked properly and it’s not bad at all.
But I’m half Cajun, and the rule of Cajun food is not to think too hard about what’s in it. So that philosophy bleeds into other foods as well.
A chicken is a vegetable that can count and ask for hugs.
Same thing with fish
That’s insane wow
Like mammal = animal?
yeah, even my father in law, a farmer, argued with me honey isn’t animal product because it’s made by bees, i guess it’s similar to the meaning of “alcohol”, for normal people it’s an alcoholic drink, mainly hard liqor, for a chemist it’s everything with a Carbon connected OH group, not only ethanol or methanol, but also menthol, sorbitol or even cholesterol
That’s pretty normal, historically-speaking. The modern classification system isn’t really very old compared to how long we’ve been talking about animals.
Aristotle thought bugs and fish and birds are all animals. I literally don’t know any classification system, or definition, that doesn’t.
Exactly! Everyone in this tread is hating on people that just learned a different “truth”. In 50 years everyone here will be wrong about something as fundamental as the animal kingdom and insist on being right. Science advances and previous truths become false.
There is also the aspect of biological classification not being very useful for everyday live. Do people go “uhm actachully biologically fish don’t exist” every time they see a meal advertised as “fish …”. People can have a concept of “animal” that is different from the taxonomy. And classifying mammals+reptiles+amphibian(+birds) as something different than fish and different than insects is a pretty reasonable classification (based on phenotype and not on phylogeny)
Well, yeah. They are government drones. (/s just in case someone needs it)