The last “serious about anticheat” game was hacked on release day. On Windows. With kernel-level AC.
Fuck off with your lies.
I hear hackers run rampant in Rust.
Are they trying to say Valve isn’t serious about anti-cheat?
If you can’t play a specific game on linux due to anti-cheat and you still have to encounter cheaters on windows - is this a linux problem somehow?
I mean if you run on an operating system, you’re not really serious about anti cheat. You should require all of your players to buy your own hardware that is sealed in a titanium box. They should have to give a blood sample before each session, and they should have to be completely surrounded by webcams the entire time. Better yet, have them report to their nearest prison’s solitary confinement wing for a 100% monitored play session.
Let’s get actually serious about anti cheat.
If I need spyware to ensure I’m playing a game right, that’s a game I don’t need.
Dude should ask Linux players how they can actually play games with EAC and Battleye if that box is turned on, then they’ll realize that none of the cheaters use Linux (if any at all). Most, if not all of them, use Windows with specialized scripts.
If the game Rust is what is keeping you away from being on Linux it might be best you never go to Linux. Just save us all the future headache, thanks.
… Rust still exists? As in, the murder-hobo-survival game that was early access like, 10-15 years ago?
It is very different from the Early Access times. At some point they have rebuilt the whole game from ground up. Still is a murder-hobo-survival but is much more fun, nicer looking, better optimized and higher-skill-based game.
It’s been polished a lot since then (they update every month), but yeah, it’s still around and it’s fun. Sucks that Alistair has this take tho.
When we stopped support for Linux, we saw more cheat users exploiting Linux, than actual legitimate users. — reddit
That’s curious phrasing. Did he expect legitimate users to stick around after support was taken away? Or does he mean that there were more cheaters than legit users before support was dropped?
That’s not to say that cheating was super widespread on Linux, — blog
Okay, so his blog post suggests that it was the former, making his original argument really bizarre.
When we stopped supporting Linux, users made up less than .01% of the total player base, even if that number has doubled, or tripled, it’s not worth it. — reddit
When we discontinued linux support in 2019, — blog
The Steam Deck was released three years later, and nearly four more years have passed since its release. The portion of gamers using Linux has grown considerably more than he imagines above, and continues to grow.
Enabling proton support would mean we’re asking the EAC team to provide support for a whole other platform, which we fear would reduce their ability to support Windows — blog
That is a false dichotomy. Rather than assuming what the Easy Anti-Cheat folks would do if more support were needed for Linux, he should probably ask. I would expect them to respond to increased demand by hiring qualified staff, not diverting existing staff to tasks for which they are unqualified. This is how businesses grow.
For now, we’re still weighing up the risks and will continue to explore options with EAC. Don’t expect to see Proton support in the near future, but we hope to have it enabled someday. — blog
I think that’s the most sensible thing he has written on the topic.
By the way, even in 2019 having only 0.01% Linux players in a game that officially supports Linux feels abysmally bad. I’d wager it had Linux support on paper only and when you tried playing it would be an awful experience.
Can confirm. Their builds were pretty bad.
EAC supports Proton, the devs only need to enable it. And if they think something is lacking compared to Windows, I’m sure they could get Valve to work with EAC on improving those aspects.
I know you don’t need to hear this but just for the record, ARC Raiders just launched with EAC and works perfectly in Proton. This dude is either lying or ignorant, and I’m not sure which is worse.
The main problem for developers isn’t that it’s hard to implement. It’s the fact that EAC runs in userspace on Linux and is pretty trivial to bypass.
With that said, I want Linux to be THE gaming platform. Problem is that server side anti-cheat is not as widespread in gaming as it should be.
ARC Raiders definitely has some server side checks. On launch day I was selling items too fast and got a pop up that I violated some constraint and that I was being sent back to the lobby with my inventory in the last good state.
That should honestly just be the norm.
Brawlhalla has been running fine with EAC for years too
He’s a lying sack of potatoes. I literally called it out on here when I read his gaslighting Reddit post. EA did the exact same thing with Apex Legends, of which my producer was a heavy Apex player on Steam.
It’s Platinum rated on ProtonDB since before the actual launch. https://www.protondb.com/app/1808500
Why hasn’t the amazing economy propelling AI industry fixed cheating yet?
My suspicion says that Valve use AI in VAC these days. I have no proof of anything but in my opinion it would be the smart thing to do. And something major happened in TF2 a few months ago where they finally managed to ban the rampant bot cheaters. Could be AI or it could just be Valve finally taking the problem seriously.
They made TF2 good? I might reinstall it on my PC.
Third rate game’s developer says people who already have EAC working on proton are “not serious” uh…
Arc Raiders was just deck verified
Games shouldn’t be serious about anti-cheat.
Games should be serious about anticheat, it just shouldn’t require a rootkit into the players computer
Singleplayer games*
Edit: include non-competitive multiplayer too
And nothing of value was lost.
We have Rust at home.
The headline confused me for a second. I was like, aren’t they adding more and more rust to the kernel?
Same, I had to double check the article lol. Rust next to the word developer was a sort of short-sighted phrasing.
RUST is a game, Rust is the programming thing. Maybe we need to normalize that in posting articles lol
