Has anyone else fallen out of love with Star Wars? Don’t want to be a downer, but serious question. Maybe it was about “what it could have been?” But also clone wars tv shows felt right from someone growing up with episode 4-6 and seeing 1-3 in theaters as a teenager was cool.
I had read almost every Star Wars novel on the planet, even the bad ones. I had played almost every Star Wars video game on the planet, even the bad ones. My understanding of Star Wars was that it’s a vast universe that enables the telling of all kinds of stories with slight magical and/or sci fi twists.
When they announced that all those stories would be thrown away to make space for new ones I was slightly perturbed but was open to seeing what they’d do with it. After all they had plenty of examples to show them what not to do.
Then they released a somewhat enjoyable movie with an imperial war lord (again) being controlled by some dark Jedi (again) using an even bigger deadlier superweapon (again). And they paired that up with an incomprehensible political landscape that makes absolutely no sense other than to press the good guys into an underdog role (again).
Still, the movie was somewhat enjoyable. So I was ready to see what they had in store to tie all of that together. And then The Last Jedi showed that they had absolutely nothing in store. Nobody had thought of anything beyond that one movie. It was just a disjointed mess of wouldn’t it be cool if.
The last one just cemented that feeling. I didn’t even bother to watch that one in theatre which turned out to be a good decision. They had thrown away thousands of pages of material to give us this mess. And they didn’t even acknowledge any wrongdoings.
I watched the side stuff. The Mandalorian season 1 could still live outside of the rest of Disney. But with season 2 ever more connections crept in.
I got so sick and tired of being reminded of what they had destroyed I couldn’t even enjoy the good stuff. I gave up on Star Wars. I’ll just play Jedi Knight, KOTOR and TIE Fighter forever.
Yes, but they crammed four seasons of story into season 2. Originally they wanted to end with season 5.
This is what happens when you plan out the whole thing ahead of time. You can pivot on the spot to meet market (or overlord) demands. Must have been too organised for Disney.
Star Wars is only good anymore when it’s just a story wrapped in Star Wars paper. Andor: WW2 spy thriller. Skeleton Crew: Goonies knockoff. Disney has no goddamn clue what to do with their IP, and that includes Marvel. The best Marvel movies are not about superheroes.
Star wars is ruined. It used to be regarded as our society’s mythology, literally it was on that level of being revered, but now it’s just another oversaturated commodity on the grocery shelf made bland by corporate committees
Andor is genuine meaningful storytelling. Disney hasn’t the slightest clue what Star Wars was about and it’s only when they accidentally give someone creative the reins that they get good content. Based on actions in the last years, if Disney had actually figured out the message of Andor, they would have stopped it to avoid upsetting investors, shareholders, and consumers.
Rogue One was also well done, as a classic WWII movie painted lovingly in a glossy coat of Star Wars. It was the epitome of what “A Star Wars Story” should have been: classic tales and tropes done well in a galaxy far, far away. You want to print money? Remake classics like Home Alone or Die Hard in the SW universe.
Mandalorian S1 was a solid telling of the lone wolf & cub trope, with great acting through the helmet. Then it became a Grogu marketing vehicle that was also tied in to the travesty of the ST and all other point was lost.
Believe it or not, Skeleton Crew was a good “kids on bikes” tale, with exactly the right energy for the “it’s a kids’ movie” crowd. It’s not flawless, but it has heart and joy.
Otherwise, I can’t think of a Disney offering that isn’t flashing lights, jangling keys, and memberberries.
The OT and PT were for kids, but also had deep meaning that clearly connected with multiple generations into adulthood. No other franchise in nerddom is close to being the cultural touchstone that is classic Star Wars.
“Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans” is like “if you won’t respect me, I won’t respect you.” Same words, but used wrong. Fans hate what has been done to Star Wars because it’s like seeing the decaying corpse of a loved one used as a fist-in-the-ass puppet in a commercial for hemorrhoid cream.
Really? I thought it was basically setting the scene for the climax of the prequels and then the middle trilogy, so it was kinda important. Especially with that ‘Jar Jar’ character getting a proper role in the goings-on.
I was a massive Star Wars fan but the prequels dampened my spirit a bit.
Force Awakens, which is basically Star Wars Greatest Hits album, I really enjoyed but episodes 8 and 9 disappointed.
It felt like, well it shows, they had no plan for the trilogy. Abrams makes up a story and then Rian Johnson has to figure out how to continue it etc.
Then we all thought that Mandalorian was going to be the coolest TV show ever and then they introduced Grogu. You obviously can’t expect Disney to pander to 40 something year old nerds exclusively but I can’t deny it was disappointing.
Obi-Wan show was a story that didn’t really need to exist and felt like fan pleasing.
Boba Fett was fan pleasing onto a whole new level and then turned into Mando season 2.5.
I couldn’t get into Ashoka, the Acolyte was really disappointing and Skeleton Crew was basically Star Wars Goonies but was really enjoyable.
I’m hoping the Ryan Gosling film turns out to be good. I wish wish we had the Rogue Squadron film as well.
More content set in the Star Wars universe that isn’t connected to stories we’ve already had please.
You took it a step further than I did. I saw 7-9, the first two seasons of Mandalorian and rebels. It was too much and saw the signs to just stop, but kept hoping. Rogue One was the hope in the right direction.
Has anyone else fallen out of love with Star Wars? Don’t want to be a downer, but serious question. Maybe it was about “what it could have been?” But also clone wars tv shows felt right from someone growing up with episode 4-6 and seeing 1-3 in theaters as a teenager was cool.
I had read almost every Star Wars novel on the planet, even the bad ones. I had played almost every Star Wars video game on the planet, even the bad ones. My understanding of Star Wars was that it’s a vast universe that enables the telling of all kinds of stories with slight magical and/or sci fi twists.
When they announced that all those stories would be thrown away to make space for new ones I was slightly perturbed but was open to seeing what they’d do with it. After all they had plenty of examples to show them what not to do.
Then they released a somewhat enjoyable movie with an imperial war lord (again) being controlled by some dark Jedi (again) using an even bigger deadlier superweapon (again). And they paired that up with an incomprehensible political landscape that makes absolutely no sense other than to press the good guys into an underdog role (again).
Still, the movie was somewhat enjoyable. So I was ready to see what they had in store to tie all of that together. And then The Last Jedi showed that they had absolutely nothing in store. Nobody had thought of anything beyond that one movie. It was just a disjointed mess of wouldn’t it be cool if.
The last one just cemented that feeling. I didn’t even bother to watch that one in theatre which turned out to be a good decision. They had thrown away thousands of pages of material to give us this mess. And they didn’t even acknowledge any wrongdoings.
I watched the side stuff. The Mandalorian season 1 could still live outside of the rest of Disney. But with season 2 ever more connections crept in.
I got so sick and tired of being reminded of what they had destroyed I couldn’t even enjoy the good stuff. I gave up on Star Wars. I’ll just play Jedi Knight, KOTOR and TIE Fighter forever.
At least it got us Andor, which is very very good.
And even that they had to cancel.
How? Isn’t Andor’s story complete?
Yes, but they crammed four seasons of story into season 2. Originally they wanted to end with season 5.
This is what happens when you plan out the whole thing ahead of time. You can pivot on the spot to meet market (or overlord) demands. Must have been too organised for Disney.
Star Wars is only good anymore when it’s just a story wrapped in Star Wars paper. Andor: WW2 spy thriller. Skeleton Crew: Goonies knockoff. Disney has no goddamn clue what to do with their IP, and that includes Marvel. The best Marvel movies are not about superheroes.
I’m with you. I can’t believe how many shows, movies and everything that are out there. I just don’t really care anymore.
I still enjoy the originals and some parts of the prequels, but Disney has done their thing and made it into a Disney universe.
I’m with this guy.
Star wars is ruined. It used to be regarded as our society’s mythology, literally it was on that level of being revered, but now it’s just another oversaturated commodity on the grocery shelf made bland by corporate committees
I’m still all in.
What has been your favorite recently?
Andor
I heard that was the pretty good compared to the rest of Disney content.
Andor is genuine meaningful storytelling. Disney hasn’t the slightest clue what Star Wars was about and it’s only when they accidentally give someone creative the reins that they get good content. Based on actions in the last years, if Disney had actually figured out the message of Andor, they would have stopped it to avoid upsetting investors, shareholders, and consumers.
Rogue One was also well done, as a classic WWII movie painted lovingly in a glossy coat of Star Wars. It was the epitome of what “A Star Wars Story” should have been: classic tales and tropes done well in a galaxy far, far away. You want to print money? Remake classics like Home Alone or Die Hard in the SW universe.
Mandalorian S1 was a solid telling of the lone wolf & cub trope, with great acting through the helmet. Then it became a Grogu marketing vehicle that was also tied in to the travesty of the ST and all other point was lost.
Believe it or not, Skeleton Crew was a good “kids on bikes” tale, with exactly the right energy for the “it’s a kids’ movie” crowd. It’s not flawless, but it has heart and joy.
Otherwise, I can’t think of a Disney offering that isn’t flashing lights, jangling keys, and memberberries.
The OT and PT were for kids, but also had deep meaning that clearly connected with multiple generations into adulthood. No other franchise in nerddom is close to being the cultural touchstone that is classic Star Wars.
“Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans” is like “if you won’t respect me, I won’t respect you.” Same words, but used wrong. Fans hate what has been done to Star Wars because it’s like seeing the decaying corpse of a loved one used as a fist-in-the-ass puppet in a commercial for hemorrhoid cream.
100% Andor but I enjoy the Mandalorian and a lot of the other recent stuff.
I only watched ‘Attack of the Clones’, and didn’t get the hype.
You basically started with the worst one.
Really? I thought it was basically setting the scene for the climax of the prequels and then the middle trilogy, so it was kinda important. Especially with that ‘Jar Jar’ character getting a proper role in the goings-on.
I was a massive Star Wars fan but the prequels dampened my spirit a bit.
Force Awakens, which is basically Star Wars Greatest Hits album, I really enjoyed but episodes 8 and 9 disappointed.
It felt like, well it shows, they had no plan for the trilogy. Abrams makes up a story and then Rian Johnson has to figure out how to continue it etc.
Then we all thought that Mandalorian was going to be the coolest TV show ever and then they introduced Grogu. You obviously can’t expect Disney to pander to 40 something year old nerds exclusively but I can’t deny it was disappointing.
Obi-Wan show was a story that didn’t really need to exist and felt like fan pleasing.
Boba Fett was fan pleasing onto a whole new level and then turned into Mando season 2.5.
I couldn’t get into Ashoka, the Acolyte was really disappointing and Skeleton Crew was basically Star Wars Goonies but was really enjoyable.
I’m hoping the Ryan Gosling film turns out to be good. I wish wish we had the Rogue Squadron film as well.
More content set in the Star Wars universe that isn’t connected to stories we’ve already had please.
Andor andor andor. It’s soo good, and with so little fan service it’s very surprising coming from Disney.
Andor is really the best thing Disney did since getting the Star Wars franchise.
Rogue One was also surprisingly brilliant and despite the general negative reviews, I really like Solo as well.
You took it a step further than I did. I saw 7-9, the first two seasons of Mandalorian and rebels. It was too much and saw the signs to just stop, but kept hoping. Rogue One was the hope in the right direction.
Watch Andor. Trust me. Best Star Wars in a looong time, maybe ever. It took me a few episodes to get properly into it, but boy did it pay me back.