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      The fascism was here all along, it just wasn’t equally distrubuted. The camps were already full, the tent cities were already growing, the war machine was already churning, the secret police were already snatching people to blacksites, the fascists were already supported and the genocide already ongoing. Trump just doesn’t bother with the mask, and liberals mistake that for a qualitative change. He says the quiet part so loud that willful ignorance becomes impossible, and you mistake that change in your awareness for a change in the real conditions. The building has been burning for a long time, he’s just the noxious smoke that wakes you up from your sleep.

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        Literally, no. Trump is a substantial change. Yes, the usa historically has had a massive amount of problems. Trump is not same old but said allowed, he’s a new level of psychotic and demented fascism. The previous stuff was what laid the foundation for a full on fascist to come to power.

        the genocide already ongoing.

        There was no genocide perpetrated by the states prior to trump in the last 20 years. Gaza, if that’s what you mean, while supported far too much by the states is done by Israel.

        The degree is different.

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          Yes, the usa historically has had a massive amount of problems.

          Fascism for the poor and minorities, yes

          he’s a new level of psychotic and demented fascism.

          The same actions minus the sheen of reluctant professionalism, yes. We killed a million people in Iraq when I was a child. The only difference now is that white people aren’t insulated, so now it’s fascism.

          The previous stuff was what laid the foundation for a full on fascist to come to power.

          The previous stuff being fascist actions such as imperial war, police blacksites and indefinite detention without trial

          Gaza, if that’s what you mean, while supported far too much by the states is done by Israel.

          Israel is a US puppet state that literally cannot exist without a constant flow of money and weapons from us. Their genocide is our genocide. The Democratic governor of my state sent riot cops to shoot college kids with rubber bullets for being against genocide.

          The degree is different.

          The mask is off.

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            The only differenc

            e now is that white people aren’t insulated, so now it’s fascism.

            White people are still insulated from the consequences. Also, genocide and mass murder do not require fascism. You’re mistaking every horrible thing to be equivalent to fascism, when in reality democracies can and do still perpetrate such horrors. Mass murder on a foreign country is horrific, and wrong, but that does not automatically make it fascist.

            Israel is a US puppet state

            With how much they control USA politics, that is blatantly false.

            The mask is off.

            The degree is different. You think the banning of lgbtq and immigration is the same as before you’re crazy

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          The Gaza genocide has been actively going on for over 70 years my man, Octobe 7th just showed the world what a mask off Israel looked like.

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            Yes. But that’s not perpetrated by the states, especially not with how many nations support Israel, so it is not correct to call it a genocide by the states

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              Israel is a US millitary base in country form, all of its genocide is committed with the express approval, support, and material assistance of the US Empire.