Just because you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator doesn’t mean you didn’t act right and that He’d just disregard you. And certainly many of these hypocrites will taste Hell before righteous “nonbelievers”. 👍
Just because you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator
I always find it funny when believers think they have to be intellectually/emotionally more mature than non-believers when non-believers don’t need a spiritual crutch to get through life.
You’re welcome to believe in a creator if that helps you get through the day, but don’t pretend you’re a better person because you believe in a god. Pretending it makes you more intellectually or emotionally competent actually tells people the opposite of what you think it does.
Everyone’s comes from within, cause there are no amount of words that would suddenly change human nature. The books just delineate and expand on basic, natural human morality. 👍
Everyone’s comes from within, cause there are no amount of words that would suddenly change human nature
I’m going to assume you’ve never had a real conversation with (m)any Christians about this. Because plenty will end up telling you their morality is external, rather than internal.
You have no idea how many times I’ve had this conversation and basically been told that they have no concept of where my morals would come from, because theirs comes from the Bible. I’ve even had conversations where Christians make comments about the shit they want to do but can’t because of their religious morality or gone out of their way to try to justify their actions in her eyes of their god. Their morality isn’t internal to them and their core beliefs, it’s an external pressure to behave properly for their religion/congregation.
If every religious person was like you we wouldn’t have so many problems in the world. You are right, you choice is your and mine is mine. We don’t try to change each other mind and are respectful of the others choice. 10/10 wishing everyone acted like that
Just for the record, monotheism is heresy. There are many gods in the Bible. Was it not recorded in the book of Exodus that the Egyptian priests successfully called on their native divinities to transform their staves into serpents? That Moses and the Lord summoned a bigger serpent does not mean the Egyptian gods are false. The first commandment is “You shall have no other gods before Me”, not “You shall have no other gods”. The difference being, a true follower of Elohim believes in all the gods, but worships primarily their Lord.
Was raised in fundamentalism, lost my religion over a decade ago. (I’m cool with religious people that aren’t evil shitheads trying to brain wash children.)
You’re right about the snakes. Also, the plural tenses in Job are weird.
Not related to the post. What’s your take on the Nephillium?
Adam and Eve weren’t the first homosapiens, they were only the first Jews. They were the true children of Yahweh/El/Elohim, the only created things that were imbued with divine breath. Other humans were considered subservient like other animals. The Sons of God are Jewish men, the Daughters of Men were outsider women.
Most of the oral traditions in Genesis were ancient before they were written down, so they could even be echos of early homosapiens cross breeding with neanderthals. Remember what Jesus called the gentile woman who begged for help? He said helping her would be like throwing the children’s food — the children of Yahweh — to the dogs. Those who weren’t the ethnicity and the religion were not only outsiders, they were akin to “beasts of the field.”
But Jesus still healed her daughter. And then he fed the gentiles magic bread. Jesus came to help everyone, not just the Jews. If a Helenne is condemned to Tartarus, they are welcome in Heaven. A Norsefolk who is unworthy of Valhalla may ask Jesus for His hospitality instead. If an Egyptian’s heart weighs more than a feather, Jesus will offer to save them from Ammit. Jesus said racism is bad.
Probably people with various forms of gigantism and/or demigods like Heracles.
We of course know that Elohim didn’t create all humanity, just the ancient Hebrews. Two people is not enough genetic diversity to sustain a population, and besides, we have fossil records of humans long before 6,000 years ago. Abel and Cain likely found wives among the human creations of other gods.
I really like the interpretation of Cain and Abel having it’s roots in the transition from Hunter Gatherer to Agraian society. Gobekli Tepe and all that.
Another couple of fun ones are Christmas trees being forbidden in Jeremiah and cannabasam (forget where in the OT). I assume your uname is in reference to that cannabis use. The manna as psychedelic mushrooms is also a cool idea.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
It takes intellectual competence to believe in magic?
Yes, it does. Faith is like a muscle, it has to be exercised or it will atrophy, but with it, one can choose their beliefs, regardless of evidence. At the lowest level, this makes placebos stronger and helps quiet intrusive thoughts. At the highest levels of magical skill, all reality is one’s plaything. Because by changing your beliefs, you can rewrite your perceptions and remake the world as it exists within your own eyes.
Jesus said as much in the parable of the fig tree.
That’s not very convincing to people who care about believing true things, and it’s certainly not what I’d classify as “intellectual competence.”
Whatever works for you, great. But saying people who don’t delude themselves are lacking in intellectual or emotional competence doesn’t seem to be an effective message.
Just because you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator doesn’t mean you didn’t act right and that He’d just disregard you. And certainly many of these hypocrites will taste Hell before righteous “nonbelievers”. 👍
I always find it funny when believers think they have to be intellectually/emotionally more mature than non-believers when non-believers don’t need a spiritual crutch to get through life.
You’re welcome to believe in a creator if that helps you get through the day, but don’t pretend you’re a better person because you believe in a god. Pretending it makes you more intellectually or emotionally competent actually tells people the opposite of what you think it does.
I know right. They get their decency and morals from a book and ours comes from within.
Everyone’s comes from within, cause there are no amount of words that would suddenly change human nature. The books just delineate and expand on basic, natural human morality. 👍
I’m going to assume you’ve never had a real conversation with (m)any Christians about this. Because plenty will end up telling you their morality is external, rather than internal.
You have no idea how many times I’ve had this conversation and basically been told that they have no concept of where my morals would come from, because theirs comes from the Bible. I’ve even had conversations where Christians make comments about the shit they want to do but can’t because of their religious morality or gone out of their way to try to justify their actions in her eyes of their god. Their morality isn’t internal to them and their core beliefs, it’s an external pressure to behave properly for their religion/congregation.
That’s the funniest joke of 2025 lol
Marianas Trench level of self-awareness
Oh no, trust me, I’ve walked both paths! But I know what’s my audience here so I won’t even complain about the reactions, lol.
If every religious person was like you we wouldn’t have so many problems in the world. You are right, you choice is your and mine is mine. We don’t try to change each other mind and are respectful of the others choice. 10/10 wishing everyone acted like that
r/usernamechecksout
Just for the record, monotheism is heresy. There are many gods in the Bible. Was it not recorded in the book of Exodus that the Egyptian priests successfully called on their native divinities to transform their staves into serpents? That Moses and the Lord summoned a bigger serpent does not mean the Egyptian gods are false. The first commandment is “You shall have no other gods before Me”, not “You shall have no other gods”. The difference being, a true follower of Elohim believes in all the gods, but worships primarily their Lord.
Based on the username, I can’t tell whether this is a troll account lmfao
Weed is a gift from the Lord. Or possibly Dionysus.
Was raised in fundamentalism, lost my religion over a decade ago. (I’m cool with religious people that aren’t evil shitheads trying to brain wash children.)
You’re right about the snakes. Also, the plural tenses in Job are weird.
Not related to the post. What’s your take on the Nephillium?
I love what @JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org is saying, but there’s no mystery about the nephilim.
Adam and Eve weren’t the first homosapiens, they were only the first Jews. They were the true children of Yahweh/El/Elohim, the only created things that were imbued with divine breath. Other humans were considered subservient like other animals. The Sons of God are Jewish men, the Daughters of Men were outsider women.
Most of the oral traditions in Genesis were ancient before they were written down, so they could even be echos of early homosapiens cross breeding with neanderthals. Remember what Jesus called the gentile woman who begged for help? He said helping her would be like throwing the children’s food — the children of Yahweh — to the dogs. Those who weren’t the ethnicity and the religion were not only outsiders, they were akin to “beasts of the field.”
But Jesus still healed her daughter. And then he fed the gentiles magic bread. Jesus came to help everyone, not just the Jews. If a Helenne is condemned to Tartarus, they are welcome in Heaven. A Norsefolk who is unworthy of Valhalla may ask Jesus for His hospitality instead. If an Egyptian’s heart weighs more than a feather, Jesus will offer to save them from Ammit. Jesus said racism is bad.
You’re cool. I like you.
You too
I like Cain and Abel/hunter gatherer vs agrarian theory.
The whole sons of god are angels having hybrid giant babies with human women is just a lot of fun.
Probably people with various forms of gigantism and/or demigods like Heracles.
We of course know that Elohim didn’t create all humanity, just the ancient Hebrews. Two people is not enough genetic diversity to sustain a population, and besides, we have fossil records of humans long before 6,000 years ago. Abel and Cain likely found wives among the human creations of other gods.
I really like the interpretation of Cain and Abel having it’s roots in the transition from Hunter Gatherer to Agraian society. Gobekli Tepe and all that.
Another couple of fun ones are Christmas trees being forbidden in Jeremiah and cannabasam (forget where in the OT). I assume your uname is in reference to that cannabis use. The manna as psychedelic mushrooms is also a cool idea.
It’s said many times both in the Old and the New testaments that whoever doesn’t believe, is totally fucked for eternity. Read your own main book.
It’s also said that everyone is saved. Everyone.
https://salvationforall.org/2_Is_Salvation_For_All_Biblical/1_salvation_is_biblical.html
Hmm that’s too bad
That’s hilarious.
It takes intellectual competence to believe in magic?
The best argument I’ve ever heard for any god is “you can’t prove it didn’t happen this way.”
But I’m sure you have better than that, right?
Yes, it does. Faith is like a muscle, it has to be exercised or it will atrophy, but with it, one can choose their beliefs, regardless of evidence. At the lowest level, this makes placebos stronger and helps quiet intrusive thoughts. At the highest levels of magical skill, all reality is one’s plaything. Because by changing your beliefs, you can rewrite your perceptions and remake the world as it exists within your own eyes.
Jesus said as much in the parable of the fig tree.
That’s not very convincing to people who care about believing true things, and it’s certainly not what I’d classify as “intellectual competence.”
Whatever works for you, great. But saying people who don’t delude themselves are lacking in intellectual or emotional competence doesn’t seem to be an effective message.
If you care more about truth than about the power to heal the sick and free the oppressed, then you are complicit.
Cool story. It’s a wonderful excuse, anyway.