• abbotsbury@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Obamacare isn’t perfect and made some things more expensive for some people. Yes it helped others and overall I think it’s beneficial, but covering your ears and pretending that anon is blaming socialized medicine entirely is just inaccurate.

    Criticism, when factual, is good.

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        yes, which would make this specific criticism of Obamacare nonfactual, but anon is still not blaming socialized medicine like the person I replied to thinks

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          Anyone using the word Obongo to refer to Obama does not make that distinction. Anything left of YOYO plans is socialized healthcare to them.

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            12 hours ago

            Anyone using the word Obongo to refer to Obama does not make that distinction

            idk, that’s a strawman. Obongo is often just used as a funny word because it’s 4chan

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        I know what obongo means, don’t know what “other side” discourse you think I’m looking for, but you seem to have made up your mind about what kind of strawman I am, so have fun I guess.

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          I assumed you were acting like this was a fair and factual criticism of Obamacare, since you responded to someone calling it bullshit by defending fair and factual criticism.
          Since you also said you thought Obamacare was a net positive, I assumed you were arguing that we should be open to listening to criticism of things we approve of, or listening to the “other side of the conversation”, and just misunderstood what you were defending.

          I really don’t see this as a negative strawman, but I’m quite curious to know what you thought I was arguing against.

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            12 hours ago

            I really don’t see this as a negative strawman

            All strawmen are negative, if a person (or their argument) needs to be caricatured to be attacked, it shouldn’t be attacked. If it can be attacked and you’re just caricaturing for fun, then you’re diluting the argument and shouldn’t.

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              Do you think that my description is negative, a caricature, or a strawman now that I’ve said what I was responding to? How was I misrepresenting your opinion by, I thought, assuming positive intent?