I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don’t understand why. I have really nice setup with Debian 12 and Windows 10. Boot pc, get to work on Linux, and other projects after. When I’m done and want to game a bit I switch to windows.
I have no need to setup funky VMs to bypass games made strictly for windows, and also don’t have performance limitations.
I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don’t understand why.
Back when I dual booted, every Windows update was a dice roll whether and how it would decide to fuck up my dual boot setup.
Sometimes it decides to “fix” grub. Sometimes it wanted to encrypt something new to protect me from all the theives that wander through my living room. Sometimes Windows just had an update that was 1000% sure that Windows was the default boot entry, and so doing something extremely sensitive and rebooting to finish without telling the user, should be fine.
Windows under dual boot, for me, was like having a fragile semi-suicidal pet. I found myself doing constant research to rescue it from itself.
If you need that for aggressive anticheat stuff to run, that makes total sense. I personally don’t need it since proton is so good, but I also don’t understand why anyone would hate on you for that.
Your second paragraph tells me you haven’t even tried because the first part is just checking a checkbox in the steam settings to automatically use proton for games without linux support, and occasionally going in to the game settings (again in steam) to force it to use proton instead of a broken linux version.
And there’s no performance limitations running them on Linux. If anything, performance is even better on Linux because it isn’t running every single possible service MS wants to minimize support time and gobble up data.
Only exceptions to this are if you play games that want to do things in your kernel, or maybe if you’re using an nvidia gpu, depending on your distro it might take effort to get that set up properly.
If you have an AMD GPU, it’s actually quicker to go from start installing the OS to playing a game on linux than it is in windows between a) it not trying to steal focus to upsell you on other ms products, b) gpu drivers being included in the distro, and c) the defaults just being better on linux, thus less time spent making it less annoying to use.
It’s just no longer true that windows is the right tool for gaming, except for a list of specific games that want to invade the kernel and thus I’m kinda happy that I won’t accidentally run one. They don’t even stop cheating (which should be done on the server side anyways).
Well, I work with devops, so I am well aware of some of the benefits and limitations of VMs, and I also tried proton. But I’ve run in tons of issues when running older games that I like, specially mmos like Ragnarock Online, Perfect World, Prison Tale. They have lots of compatibility issues with the VM, even with windows 10 for that matter, which is a little easier to circumvent.
About performance, things like baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk 77 that I like, have like 20 to 25 less frames on proton, to add salt to injury bg3 crashes a lot.
Your second paragraph tells me you haven’t even tried because the first part is just checking a checkbox in the steam
Please don’t assume thinga on the internet, steam accounts for a quarter of my time spent on games.
I’m not here to say which one is better, just saying that bashing a completely fine option is, at least, dumb.
I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don’t understand why. I have really nice setup with Debian 12 and Windows 10. Boot pc, get to work on Linux, and other projects after. When I’m done and want to game a bit I switch to windows.
I have no need to setup funky VMs to bypass games made strictly for windows, and also don’t have performance limitations.
Just use the right tool for the right job folks.
Back when I dual booted, every Windows update was a dice roll whether and how it would decide to fuck up my dual boot setup.
Sometimes it decides to “fix” grub. Sometimes it wanted to encrypt something new to protect me from all the theives that wander through my living room. Sometimes Windows just had an update that was 1000% sure that Windows was the default boot entry, and so doing something extremely sensitive and rebooting to finish without telling the user, should be fine.
Windows under dual boot, for me, was like having a fragile semi-suicidal pet. I found myself doing constant research to rescue it from itself.
Eventually I did let it die.
So I’m not mad at it, exactly. I’m just over it.
If you need that for aggressive anticheat stuff to run, that makes total sense. I personally don’t need it since proton is so good, but I also don’t understand why anyone would hate on you for that.
Your second paragraph tells me you haven’t even tried because the first part is just checking a checkbox in the steam settings to automatically use proton for games without linux support, and occasionally going in to the game settings (again in steam) to force it to use proton instead of a broken linux version.
And there’s no performance limitations running them on Linux. If anything, performance is even better on Linux because it isn’t running every single possible service MS wants to minimize support time and gobble up data.
Only exceptions to this are if you play games that want to do things in your kernel, or maybe if you’re using an nvidia gpu, depending on your distro it might take effort to get that set up properly.
If you have an AMD GPU, it’s actually quicker to go from start installing the OS to playing a game on linux than it is in windows between a) it not trying to steal focus to upsell you on other ms products, b) gpu drivers being included in the distro, and c) the defaults just being better on linux, thus less time spent making it less annoying to use.
It’s just no longer true that windows is the right tool for gaming, except for a list of specific games that want to invade the kernel and thus I’m kinda happy that I won’t accidentally run one. They don’t even stop cheating (which should be done on the server side anyways).
Well, I work with devops, so I am well aware of some of the benefits and limitations of VMs, and I also tried proton. But I’ve run in tons of issues when running older games that I like, specially mmos like Ragnarock Online, Perfect World, Prison Tale. They have lots of compatibility issues with the VM, even with windows 10 for that matter, which is a little easier to circumvent.
About performance, things like baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk 77 that I like, have like 20 to 25 less frames on proton, to add salt to injury bg3 crashes a lot.
Please don’t assume thinga on the internet, steam accounts for a quarter of my time spent on games.
I’m not here to say which one is better, just saying that bashing a completely fine option is, at least, dumb.
^(edit: typo)
Anti-Microsoft ideologues, mostly. Giving MS any quarter is antithetical to their chosen axe to grind. Pay them no mind.