- cross-posted to:
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- hackaday@ibbit.at
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This is why everyone should mod their 3DS and backup their entire library of physical games.
Laughs in ROMs
You can’t make rom backups we here at Nintendo say their unnecessary.
This does emphasize why ROMs are legal in the first place: as backups.
If you crack open the battery-driven memory carts, the battery itself is usually pretty easy to replace. Losing your game saves sucks though. I lost my Link save which was a kick to the nostalgia. That’s when you boot up the ROM save on your computer or Steam Deck like I do lol.
The article is about 3DS carts.
It mentions other carts and their resilience too.
You can replace the battery while the game is running to preserve the save. Need to have a few customized pieces though.
Or you can just run some software on your 3ds and have it done instantly, without opening any cartridges or buying any products. Need help getting it running? Here you go.
How does that replace the battery?
The person I responded to is talking about gameboy carts that have a cmos that needs to be replaced once in a while.
So those programs aren’t even for what the person wants.
Thread’s about the 3ds. For GBA you need DS homebrew and a Phat/Lite console. For GB you need a custom device or an n64 with transfer pak and flashcart.
This is part of why physical copies are not preservationist, by the way. Turning that physical copy into a preservable, emulated-accurately ROM is the end point. The only value physical copies have are as collectible knickknacks (which hey! Collectible knickknacks rule!)
Post is, thread isn’t dude…
If you crack open the battery-driven memory carts, the battery itself is usually pretty easy to replace.
I’ve got no time for someone who can’t even read context before bloviating about some irrelevant tangent.
Also, it’s incredibly obvious you are upvoting your comments with an alt, I suggest you stop that before yo get reported.
Mmmm delicious meaningful Lemmy karma slurp slurp slurp, gotta spin up some bots for that delicious lemmy karma
It’s incredibly obvious you’re a moron, stop that before you get reported.
Fucking loser.
That sounds sketch asf. Just dump the save file with a flasher. That RAM chip is writeable from the cart pins or it wouldn’t work as save data. Cheap flashers come in at ~$25. Dump, solder, reupload.
Or yknow. The 3ds you presumably own to play these games. Takes about 20 minutes and an sd card to go from stock to clicking a button and backing up the save file (or whole game). No need to open carts or buy more products.
Why? The battery is just a current, and while the gameboy is on, it’s supplying the current instead.
What you’re suggesting is far more work and steps, and any transfer can corrupt.
There’s no way this can go wrong unless you turn the power off or disconnect the cartridges pins from the mount. Which can happen while using the transfers as well….
You don’t even need a computer, just the cart and a gameboy, and a screwdriver. It’s funny what people think is easier while including a dozen unnecessary extra steps that introduce issues at each step. And costs money.
IIRC from various board schematics at a previous job, typically you have the battery connected into the relevant voltage supply with a diode. So when that Vcc line for your memory module or real time clock is powered externally, the battery just sits idle since there’s no voltage drop across the diode to get current flowing from the battery.
It works well because it’s analog and fast and solid state. And yeah as long as you don’t bump other parts or break something, if you swapped the battery on a powered system it should be fine.
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Oh yes batteries are very scary and shouldn’t be touched. Sounds like you just don’t understand how batteries work and are afraid of doing something simple. So you’ve made it more complicated and costly, to avoid… idk even know what. Replacing a battery isn’t sketchy, it’s friggen hilarious you claim it is. This applies to ANYTHING with a battery fyi.
It’s not about the battery. You have to change it regardless of method used. But it’s easier to just dump the memory and reload it. Then you even have a backup. You’re just being pretentious honestly. I mean, it’s not even about those games, it’s about 3DS carts and you’re over here jerking yourself off that you can change GBC carts.
How is adding steps and error potential easier?
In what world is more steps and more potential issues the easier method?
People have been doing this way since the 80s, without flag carts. What do you think people did before….
I fucking hate lemmy users sometimes dude…
Nobody is saying the battery itself is the dangerous part, though you beat up that strawman!
I asked the person, and they couldn’t articulate what the issue was. They seem to think removing a live battery is dangerous, they never stated otherwise.
Some people think you can’t replace a battery while the equipment is on, you can replace your car battery while it’s running. There’s literally no danger involved ever.
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nice job handling being wrong
How exactly are you going to get at the battery while the cartridge is inside the Game Boy, with the PCB facing inwards?
If you claim this is doable, let alone easy, I’d like to see a video of it.
What…?As I said customized, you take your gameboy apart if needed, but usually that’s not even needed.
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Don’t worry buddy. A coworker flipped out on me once for replacing a cmos battery while a machine was on. 🤷
There’s a bit of difference doing it on a gameboy, and doing it in a running PC with spinning fans and such.
Yeah that’s nice and all, and I get it, but the original person is referring to it being a HELL of a lot easier to just plug the cartridge into a USB adapter and dump the file to a PC. You know, instead of modifying their Gameboy or cartridges like that. But sure, if that’s “easier” for you, cool. Most people don’t want to go that far and aren’t comfortable and "plug and play’ is in fact easier.
You don’t have to modify anything… it just makes it easier. I even clarified that in the comment you responded too….
Most people don’t want to go that far and aren’t comfortable and "plug and play’ is in fact easier.
What’s more plug and play then replacing a battery? Adding extra steps and dumps is what makes it more work and isn’t anymore “plug and play”
It’s not easier to add more steps, and the battery is replaced the same way in both methods?
Why do you think doing less steps is MORE work?
How’s it sketchy? It’s no different than doing it dead, and it removes plenty of other steps.
Flashers cost money, corrupt, lots of people want to stay true and that creates an avenue for cheating and other stuff that isn’t true to original.
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You…. Uhh… don’t need to solder it back on. Conductive tape, this also makes it simpler for next time, since it’ll happen again.
And a piece of cardboard levels out the work area. These are all non-issues you are making into mole hills and then mountains.
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You’re the one talking like your way is the only right way.
Someone was providing some knowledge about how to save their saves.
Which emulator do you use on the Deck? I don’t like retroarchs ui, and the other emulators I’ve tried need a cursor, which is fine but I’d ideally use something else.
I use Emudeck. It works well and it was easy to setup.
I think Bazzite suggests using Emudeck, should also work in SteamOS
I think Batocera uses EmulationStation, which is what Emudeck installs?
I have to look into that. I haven’t tried it yet.
ThanksNeither of those are actual emulators, just unified front ends for ROM management/emulation. Emudeck is essentially an installer and (in)sane config preset tool, emulation station is the frontend you use to boot the ROMs you want to play, in place of opening an individual emulator.
For emulation station you still need to install the emulators to a location it can see them.
Emudeck does that for you, with the exception of citra and the Nintendo Switch emulators.
This is why I was always laughing at people who were kept telling me to buy cheap external SSDs instead of more permanent forms of archival.
my copy of pokémon y had gotten more and more unplayable over the years. at first, it would crash when viewing specific models. then, it would crash in more and more places. last year, when i last used it, it was straight up unplayable, the game would simply not boot.
thankfully, only the ROM was corrupted, i was able to salvage the save data using a hacked console, and now it’s sitting on my computer, backed up, but still… be careful, everyone.
if you have a 3DS, games with saves that matter to you, and some time to kill, make backups. 3DSes are easy to hack, and with online services being shut down, you don’t have to worry about being banned.
[unfinished game experiences performance issues]
Who would have thought.
did you even read my reply
it’s hardware deterioration, it doesn’t matter how bad at coding you are, unless you’re being explicitly malicious you can’t code a game that deteriorates over time lol
You just need to remember to blow the dust out.
No that leads to more corrosion.
Then you just need to blow it again, duh!
You don’t have to use your cakehole.
It also doesn’t work.
Cleaning things doesn’t work?
People have tested this and simply removing and plugging back in works just as good. As in, blowing does nothing.
Something else working in no way what so ever means blowing does nothing. rofl What kind of piss-poor logic is that? You can say there are other effective options, but one thing working does not reflect on something else’s efficacy.
What? You set up two tests 1) doesn’t work, you remove, blow, and reinsert. 2) doesn’t work, you remove, don’t blow, and reinsert. Repeat both x number of times. Compare results. And there was no difference. This is a very basic experiment.
Anyway with your tone I expect you feel too invested to be corrected, so cheers.
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