• Tattorack@lemmy.world
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      There are a handful, but they’re either too mundane for the typical conspiracy guy, or actually invalidate certain conspiracies.

      Like climate change deniers. They believe that climate change is created by scientists to make more money or by shadow government to keep people in line with fear, or some combination of both.

      The real conspiracy is, however, that Exxon Mobile knew about climate change 11 years before scientists at large discovered it and spent all that time creating the climate denying talking points we all know and love.

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

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      Conspiracy theories are all bollocks. Real conspiracies don’t even bother to hide because they have the power and who’s going to stop them anyway?

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        NSA spying, Epstein, diamond engagement rings, are some examples of conspiracy theories widely established to be real.

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          And yet, pizza gate, school shooting crisis actors, “Bush did 9/11”, fake moon landing, firmament, HAARP weather control, JFK killed by the CIA, et. al (to name a few) are all ephemeral bunk with no conclusive evidence to back them up.

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          Yes, and countless crackpots reference Galileo when shouting out their latest thing that scientists don’t want you to know about. The one doesn’t automatically give even the slightest credence to the other.

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            Sure, but it works the other way around too; you can’t automatically rule out conspiracy theories as false just because they fall into the category of conspiracy theories. This is itself a plausible conspiracy theory; that the trope of conspiracy theories being associated with crazy idiots, and the prevalence of very stupid conspiracy theories, is supported and encouraged to provide additional cover for the real ones.

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              You can until they provide evidence. Because the onus of proof is on the claimant.

              Acquire proof.

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                I would argue that even before the point where the conspiracies I mentioned were conclusively proven and accepted as common knowledge, it still made sense to seriously consider the possibility and not dismiss people doing so only because they were engaging in conspiracy theories (which absolutely happened). That mindset just helps them get away with it.