I don’t read r/conservative much but what I’ve seen is they keep banning actual conservatives because they correctly call out what Trump is doing on things where it’s not about left and right but right and wrong.

Some people are saying that it could be coincidental. OP asks why would the two accounts who post so regularly just happen to both stop at the same time on that day.

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    Virtually every major outlet for the right wing is, in some way shape or form, controlled by fascist foreign actors. Especially Russia.

    All the dumb-fuck faux leftists supporting Russia over Ukraine, claiming Ukraine has a major Nazi problem, need to open their fucking eyes and see Russia is the biggest exporter of Nazism world wide.

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        I never said fascism wasn’t homegrown in the US.

        I am saying the majority of fascist figureheads and “discussion controllers” are either foreign hostile actors, or associated with foreign hostile actors in some way.

        Ex: Russia, Israel, etc.

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      Russia’s influence would be evident even if there weren’t so much evidence of the interference and troll farm employees speaking out. Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump’s policies.

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        Are you suggesting transphobia in the west is because Russia is ordering western leaders to pass anti-trans laws?

        Or did you just mean America, and TERF island gets its transphobia from a different source?

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          In this instance, I’m talking specifically about Trump, but Russia’s influence on Europe is also undeniable, though not always as crystal clear. They have their own people in the European parliaments and intelligence from the likes of Schröder, in addition to paying the likes of Le Pen, running the troll factories, creating fake news, and so forth.

          I think it’s rarely done as a direct order. More often than not, it’s a combination of all those things, best illustrated by when the Russian government and its trolls paid for Facebook ads and pretended to be American activists, getting people inside America out to protest for both guns rights and against them, as well as for BLM and for the likes of Trump. They’ve done the same in Africa and other regions. One of the goals is to create division not only to weaken but also to use domestically, as Putin’s justification for his “strong hand” leadership has often been to point at the “chaotic” and “soulless” West and ask if the population wants the same in Russia.

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        Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump’s policies.

        Hate to bring it to you, but the evil doesn’t have to have a single source. Authoritarian regimes all across the world during the entirety of recent history have been banning LGBTQ+. Autocrats are obsessed with non conforming sex and identities

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          It’s not about the fact of cracking down on minorities, but about the specific language used, specific policies introduced and changes made. Think of any part of Trump’s crackdown on trans rights and you’ll find direct equivalents to it in Putin’s recent policies that preceded it. There are many ways to be transphobic, but they land on the same themes and talking points pushed by the right-wing figures who take Russian money.

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      the best part of all of it…is the reveal twitter had a couple weeks ago, where they put access location and registration location as publicly visible…for all of 5 minutes, revealing the fact that most big head conservative twitter accounts are foreign controlled psyop/propaganda outlets.

      Crazy how the right wing just absolutely ignores that 98% of all the big totally patriotic american twitter accounts telling them what to do and how to feel come from russia, belarus, etc etc.

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      If we invade Venezuela or even continue to steal oil tankers, is argue we’re at least the same of level fascism as Russia. Prageru is insane I’ve heard that some schools have prageru in the classrooms. It’s hard to imagine that we aren’t on the same path as Putin was. We could elect the coolest socialist women president ever and the supreme Court would still be there to prevent any progressive legislature. We suck

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        Trump is literally the most envious assholes on the planet. He’s friends with the Saudis, and he wants what they have, which is oil. Venezuela sits on the largest oil reserve on the planet.

        We will be going to war with Venezuela.

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      Yes, it’s important to understand that America does not actually have any homegrown problem with right wing extremism, and certainly doesn’t need to consider if any structural or societal issues have caused these problems. The issue is foreigners; foreigners who have been allowed too much influence and control. The solution to America’s issues is to stop being so lenient with foreigners.

      claiming Ukraine has a major Nazi problem, need to open their fucking eyes and see Russia is the biggest exporter of Nazism world wide.

      Exactly; the fact that Russia has Nazis means that it is by definition impossible for Ukraine to have a Nazi problem. They are diametrically opposed.

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        I could reply to this using the exact same reasoning, but with arguments switched.

        “Yes, it’s important to understand that Russia does not actually have any homegrown problem with nazis, and certainly needs our support in the war. The issue is Ukraine; Ukraine which has been given too much support. The best thing to do for leftists worldwide is supporting Russia in their war against nazis.”

        “Exactly; the fact that the US have a homegrown problem with right wing extremism means that it is by definition impossible for other countries to manipulate it, exacerbate it, or even be its primary cause. They are diametrically opposed.”

        Do you disagree with the arguments that:

        -There’s definitely more nazis in Russia than in Ukraine, therefore supporting Russia because Ukraine has a “nazi problem” makes no sense

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        -Foreign countries could’ve caught wind of the right wing extremism starting to rise in the US and therefore decided to exploit it through foreign actors, propping it into mainstream political discourse, making both things true?

        Because that’s what was being argued.

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                I just mean, like, there’re significantly more people in the world who live outside of any one country than in.

                If you hypothetically had a 50/50 agree/disagree ratio with the average person, the majority of people you’d disagree with would be foreign to you.

                But that’s just because the majority of people in general are foreign to you, though. Not because of any specific ideology. So you’d also probably agree with more foreigners than anyone else, too.

                Was just going for some levity. I guess maybe my undoing hinges on the word “secretly”?