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    24 days ago

    Don’t know how anyone can call this show slow and boring. One of the best new sci-fi shows this year, IMO.

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      23 days ago

      When you just factor in just how many people’s brains have been addled by the instant dopamine gratification provided by the likes of Tik Tok, YouRube Shorts and Instagram Reels’ bottomless feeds of inane drivel, and their resulting inability to focus on content for more than 60 seconds at a time - you begin to understand the types of people who complain about the show being slow.

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      23 days ago

      General public is too used to immediate gratification. We need to have answers now, we need the next episode now, we need we need we need…

      I’m loving the slower paced story. I love watching Carol listen to the voicemail greeting each time, it helps put us in her shoes. We’re getting spoon-fed morsels of answers as she’s learning the. Really well done

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    23 days ago

    The last interview with Vince made me a little sad

    “Yeah, it’s going to frustrate some folks, just to be honest. We work at the speed we work at, much like glaciers melt at the speed that they melt at. For my own sake, as much as anybody, selfishly, I wish we could get this job done quicker because I don’t know how many years I’ve got left. I still want to do more things, but I go slower than I used to. So it’s going to be a while between seasons; it just is. Unless we invent a time machine or figure out how to stop time, it’s just the nature of the beast.”

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    23 days ago

    I enjoy the show, but also agree with the pacing issue. The season is nine episodes long, and we spend one of them following a guy driving up the coast for 20 minutes. No mystery, no conflict, just a guy and a slippery rock.

    The cinematography is beautiful, but the show lacked any stakes for 80% of the runtime, and didn’t explore the implications of the scenario with nearly enough gusto. I would give it leeway on this by looking at is as a slow-paced character study, but the only character in the show does not feel developed either.

    Overall the show is enjoyable, but I did not feel guilty using the skip button to get through the most egregious scenes

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      22 days ago

      Yeah. I was also a little annoyed how, during the episode where she visits the dude in Vegas, they played the entire “our feelings for you haven’t changed” message every single time. It felt like 1/3 of the episode was her impatiently waiting for the message to finish

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        Weirdly, this one didn’t really get to me. The absurdity of having to listen to a passive aggressive voicemail because of your own actions just to harass the people on the other end was funny to me. That being said, it’s inclusion in a show that already likes to drag things out is a bit annoying.

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    23 days ago

    Half the comments I’ve seen around the show involve the slow pace.

    It’s an issue. To the point of immersion-breaking and showing a lack of technical artistry.

    No, I don’t need to go watch Fast and the Furious, I can criticize a show I like.

    Elsewise, the show was interesting. Very well acted. But I think someone like Carol would be asking a lot more pertinent questions than they did.

    Writing needs to tighten up and then some. Particularly with a sci-fi trope that’s been as explored as this one.

    Carol, “can you take me to my eggs.”
    Zosia, “certainly!”
    Carol destroys her eggs when she gets there
    IMMEDIATE PROBLEM SOLVED

    Carol, "can you set up everything you need to create robots that can pick fruit and give me a simple [YES]/[NO] prompt for them to do so? …?

    The show can do more with less while retaining it’s thoughtfulness. The acting is there, the mystery-box is present. It just needs a push.

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      Carol, “can you take me to my eggs.” Zosia, “certainly!” Carol destroys her eggs when she gets there IMMEDIATE PROBLEM SOLVED

      It’s been made pretty damn obvious that they have different tiers of biological imperative, and spreading the virus trumps everything else. So no, they could refuse her.

      Carol, "can you set up everything you need to create robots that can pick fruit and give me a simple [YES]/[NO] prompt for them to do so? …?

      It was stated that they couldn’t build and program it. They’re not a program you can find a loophole in, they’re an intelligent being holding to the spirit of their limitations.

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    24 days ago

    Disagree. It was slow, boring and focused on the worst kind of character for 90% of its short season. The last episode tried to give viewers something to cling on to while they settle in for a wait that is likely to be 2+ years before the next season trickles out. Trump and AI will have burned the world to ground by then.

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    I had no problems with the pacing, I was enjoying it. However, characters are flat and underdeveloped (Impressive, considering theres only 2 characters for most of the season) Carols behaviour in the last episode was unconsistent and in service of the plot. And the plot was quite predictable.

    It was an ok show, it entretained me and I really like the premise but the execution was bland.

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    24 days ago

    We’ve watched three episodes so far. I’m really enjoying it. I have so many questions and can’t wait to get some of those answers.

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    Some of my favourite shows have a very slow pace. But so much of this story was frontloaded in the first 2 episodes, it created a stark difference in pacing compared with the rest of the season. I thought it’d likely return to the fast pace in the finale. I imagined Gilligan’s process setting up the premise and having some big twist planned, with the middle episodes mostly serving as a means to get there. But now it seems like he just came up with the premise and once established, now wants to explore it slowly and methodically. That’s totally fine for me, but can totally understand it having less widespread appeal than how it initially seemed

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    23 days ago

    Big disagree from me, but I also stopped watching after episode 6 so maybe it picked up these last few episodes.

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    Meh. I saw a bunch of people absolutely obsessed with it and I just didn’t see the appeal because it was so slow and boring. Obviously that’s just because it’s not my type of show, but that doesn’t make the claim any less bullshit.

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    24 days ago

    I view people who complain about things being slow and boring the same as Mike from RLM. Doesn’t need to be defended. Go watch Fast and Furious and let me enjoy my show.

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    No, it’s boring. Like, intentionally boring for most of each episode.

    Paid propaganda to like the show

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          No? So you assume anyone who says it is good, and writes an article on it are paid propagandists?

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            Anyone? This is a paid piece from Variety, one of Penske Media Corp’s many media outlets

            It’s not even a blog post from a random individual expressing their potential genuine desire for the show. It’s bare naked public relations

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              22 days ago

              Is everyone in this comment section also a shill?

              Or is it more likely that art is subjective, and people have different opinions than you?

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                We are talking about an article that is literally paid promotion

                This entire thread was created because Apple paid for the initial content lmao

                You can all go genuinely like the show as much as you want but none of you go around posting about it until Apple literally pays Variety to create the content for you to talk about

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                  I didn’t even know there was an article. Based on the title, I thought it was a discussion thread

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    If we get a second season, I’ll watch it. Possibly, by the time the second season arrives, I’ll have forgotten about this show.

    I was bothered the whole show about how inconsistent Carol is. She figures out they can’t lie, then learns that she can’t use drugs to force them to tell her what she wants to know, then… falls in love with Zosia? WTF? I suppose that does make some sense, Nightingale effect and all that, maybe, but it derails the progress until Manousos shows up in the last episode.

    It’s a little tedious to watch, with so little pay off for the effort. But, it’s still better than anything else I’ve had to watch these past few weeks.

    It feels like the producers don’t care about pleasing their audience after they get the contract. They just make whatever pleases them, perhaps expecting that no matter how well the show does, it’s a crap-shoot whether it will be picked up for another season. It’s hard to blame them, if that’s the case.

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      23 days ago

      It has already been renewed for Season 2.

      Carol is a deeply flawed protagonist and seemed to have surrendered to the hive like Koumba by the end, except she forgot that they really were still working on converting her.