Organizing in working class parties such as PSL so that we can end overseas wars, sanctions, and bombings forever, and finally end the imperialist system forever. Only through establishing socialism can we escape this never-ending death spiral and the damage it inflicts not only on US citizens but the entire global south. Decolonialism and ending the settler-colonialism of the US Empire is also critical.
Voting just doesn’t do much to steer the empire to begin with, both parties largely react to the ongoing forces at play from the capitalist system. This also is compounded by the fact that there are very few swing states where voting even makes a real difference in pure electoral results.
Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can’t even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream.
You should show that to Renee Good’s family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out of it.
They both serve capital above all else. They have differences, but are on the same side. Voting matters far less than organization, even if we couldn’t vote we could still organize.
Unhappy Sam: I wish I could get a girlfriend, but no one is going to want to date someone like me
US: Maybe if I work on myself someone will want me. Dress a little nicer, maybe pick up a hobby
Me: Those are great ideas, but you literally don’t wipe your ass. I don’t think any of those things will help until you start doing that.
You: Clean ass and poopy ass are literally both the same, they both shit out poop, you sound so dumb right now. HEY EVERYONE GET A LOAD OF BROWN MAGA OVER HERE. You need to quit worshipping toilet paper and tell this guy to get to the gym. I bet you have a Charmin Bear body pillow you cum in every night.
I don’t really care for the use of allegory to make an argument, especially not the strawman you’re making.
Voting isn’t a genuine lever for working class influence, because both options on the lever lead to capitalist control and domination. You have your priorities flipped, organization is what’s important, it’s the primary means by which the working class has historically won concessions and how revolutionaries have managed to establish socialism around the globe.
Voting is the extra. It takes the least amount of effort, and has the least amount of results. I don’t personally care who you vote for or if you vote if you actually show up and organize. If voting makes you happy and feel secure, then go for it, but it won’t fix any of our problems nor will it prevent conditions from worsening, because those are intrinsic to living in late-stage imperialism.
Organizing in working class parties such as PSL so that we can end overseas wars, sanctions, and bombings forever, and finally end the imperialist system forever. Only through establishing socialism can we escape this never-ending death spiral and the damage it inflicts not only on US citizens but the entire global south. Decolonialism and ending the settler-colonialism of the US Empire is also critical.
Here’s a handy graphic from Lady Izdihar:
Good point. Voting would make that impossible.
Voting just doesn’t do much to steer the empire to begin with, both parties largely react to the ongoing forces at play from the capitalist system. This also is compounded by the fact that there are very few swing states where voting even makes a real difference in pure electoral results.
Not voting against them still gives them ground for no benefit.
So what is it now? Voting against them does nothing, or voting against them is important?
They’re on the same side. I don’t care if you vote or not, but we need to get organized.
Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can’t even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream.
You should show that to Renee Good’s family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out of it.
Gestapo funding is bipartisan ofc
They both serve capital above all else. They have differences, but are on the same side. Voting matters far less than organization, even if we couldn’t vote we could still organize.
Unhappy Sam: I wish I could get a girlfriend, but no one is going to want to date someone like me
US: Maybe if I work on myself someone will want me. Dress a little nicer, maybe pick up a hobby
Me: Those are great ideas, but you literally don’t wipe your ass. I don’t think any of those things will help until you start doing that.
You: Clean ass and poopy ass are literally both the same, they both shit out poop, you sound so dumb right now. HEY EVERYONE GET A LOAD OF BROWN MAGA OVER HERE. You need to quit worshipping toilet paper and tell this guy to get to the gym. I bet you have a Charmin Bear body pillow you cum in every night.
I don’t really care for the use of allegory to make an argument, especially not the strawman you’re making.
Voting isn’t a genuine lever for working class influence, because both options on the lever lead to capitalist control and domination. You have your priorities flipped, organization is what’s important, it’s the primary means by which the working class has historically won concessions and how revolutionaries have managed to establish socialism around the globe.
Voting is the extra. It takes the least amount of effort, and has the least amount of results. I don’t personally care who you vote for or if you vote if you actually show up and organize. If voting makes you happy and feel secure, then go for it, but it won’t fix any of our problems nor will it prevent conditions from worsening, because those are intrinsic to living in late-stage imperialism.