China’s investments aren’t for anything other than the growth of its hegemonic power through the strategic control of satellite states. The carrot is easier than the stick and has better optics. However China can and will stomp out any geopolitical threat within its area of influence even if it is diametrically opposed to whatever the citizens of said state want. It is a superpowerful police state with global ambitions. The global south isn’t breaking free. It’s selling itself to China.
The Belt and Road Initiative is certainly benefiting China, but it’s a win-win situation. China isn’t planting millitary bases anywhere, and isn’t forcing the global south to sell out their autonomy. It is not a police state, nor does it have global ambitions of hegemony.
What world do YOU live in? Who has been putting dictatorships EVERYWHERE in the global south, who has bombed Yugoslavia, southwest Asia and North Africa, Vietnam? Who has kidnapped the president of Venezuela? Who has been carrying out genocides against indigenous people and terrorizing black and other POC, and now even white liberals?
I guess I’m supposed to start weeping after your meek appeal for me to look inward. Whatever your motivation was is almost certainly something I cogently and with full knowledge disagree with.
This one. China has police internally, but is not acting like world police like the US Empire. The PRC also has no grand ambitions of hegemony, but further development for the whole world, which benefits them.
but is not acting like world police like the US Empire
Because it is too weak right now. It’s waiting for the US to make more mistakes. When the time is right it will take Taiwan and solidify control over the east and south China sea.
That you think China is different from every great power in history is the odd take. Power centralizes and seeks more power. It’s a tale as old as time. China literally modeled it’s rise after the Golden Era of American industrialization from the late nineteenth to early 1920s. America went from a backwater to a serious power in a generation. China did the same thing. It now plans to capitalize on it’s capitalism. (e.g. geopolitical dominance in the East and satellite control on the fringes of it’s empire.) China is a little America in everything but name.
Because it is too weak right now. It’s waiting for the US to make more mistakes
LOL trust me bro
China literally modeled it’s rise after the Golden Era of American industrialization from the late nineteenth to early 1920s. America went from a backwater to a serious power in a generation.
They did it with pure imperialism, looting countries and wars. And they still do.
China did it purely on their own.
Power is a metaphysical force, like a trinket in video games corrupting you, once you take hold of it, it takes hold of you. Changing your mind, forcing you to increase it, to expand power. Many fight it, but so long as you grasp it, it will act upon you. This is why term limits are not just good, they’re necessary to prevent people from going fully mad.
This isn’t accurate at all, though. China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned and the working classes control the state. The vague idea of “power corrupting” is just supernatural superstition, you’re confusing the form, ie an industrialized society, with the essence, ie a capitalist empire vs a rising socialist country. You’re looking only for similarities and ignoring the key differences that prove your narrative highly flawed.
I don’t smoke. I’m not sure which you believe is funny, the idea that the commanding heights of industry are publicly owned in large SOEs, or that the working class controls the state, but both are factually true and easily verified. For example, when looking at publicly owned industries, we can see the following:
Even checking Wikipedia, data from 2022 shows that the overwhelming majority of the top companies are publicly owned SOEs. This is China’s strategy, they’ve been honest about it from the beginning. The private sector is about half cooperatives like Huawei or farming cooperarives and sole proprietorships, with the other half being small and medium firms. As these grow, they are folded into the public sector gradually. This is China’s Socialist Market Economy.
As for the state being run by the working classes, this is also pretty straightforward. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the CPC, a working class party, dominates the state. At a democratic level, local elections are direct, while higher levels are elected by lower rungs. At the top, constant opinion gathering and polling occurs, gathering public opinion, driving gradual change. This system is better elaborated on in Professor Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance, and we can see the class breakdown of the top of the government itself:
China’s investments aren’t for anything other than the growth of its hegemonic power through the strategic control of satellite states. The carrot is easier than the stick and has better optics. However China can and will stomp out any geopolitical threat within its area of influence even if it is diametrically opposed to whatever the citizens of said state want. It is a superpowerful police state with global ambitions. The global south isn’t breaking free. It’s selling itself to China.
I’ve heard that american cope and scaremongering.
And it’s BS propaganda
The Belt and Road Initiative is certainly benefiting China, but it’s a win-win situation. China isn’t planting millitary bases anywhere, and isn’t forcing the global south to sell out their autonomy. It is not a police state, nor does it have global ambitions of hegemony.
Lol okay. What world do you live in?
What world do YOU live in? Who has been putting dictatorships EVERYWHERE in the global south, who has bombed Yugoslavia, southwest Asia and North Africa, Vietnam? Who has kidnapped the president of Venezuela? Who has been carrying out genocides against indigenous people and terrorizing black and other POC, and now even white liberals?
Edit: typo, I’m drunk lol
Clearly drunk. I have no idea who you are arguing against.
Very powerful. I have no idea what you’re talking about either.
of course you don’t
I guess I’m supposed to start weeping after your meek appeal for me to look inward. Whatever your motivation was is almost certainly something I cogently and with full knowledge disagree with.
That the US are the baddies. That the US did all those things. China didn’t. That’s the point.
This one. China has police internally, but is not acting like world police like the US Empire. The PRC also has no grand ambitions of hegemony, but further development for the whole world, which benefits them.
Because it is too weak right now. It’s waiting for the US to make more mistakes. When the time is right it will take Taiwan and solidify control over the east and south China sea.
That you think China is different from every great power in history is the odd take. Power centralizes and seeks more power. It’s a tale as old as time. China literally modeled it’s rise after the Golden Era of American industrialization from the late nineteenth to early 1920s. America went from a backwater to a serious power in a generation. China did the same thing. It now plans to capitalize on it’s capitalism. (e.g. geopolitical dominance in the East and satellite control on the fringes of it’s empire.) China is a little America in everything but name.
LOL trust me bro
They did it with pure imperialism, looting countries and wars. And they still do.
China did it purely on their own.
Power is a metaphysical force, like a trinket in video games corrupting you, once you take hold of it, it takes hold of you. Changing your mind, forcing you to increase it, to expand power. Many fight it, but so long as you grasp it, it will act upon you. This is why term limits are not just good, they’re necessary to prevent people from going fully mad.
What libs think power is, yet they are still somehow ok with it being handed to already evil people in their “democracies”.
The trinket line is really good, it always works lol. Good job!
Lol
This isn’t accurate at all, though. China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned and the working classes control the state. The vague idea of “power corrupting” is just supernatural superstition, you’re confusing the form, ie an industrialized society, with the essence, ie a capitalist empire vs a rising socialist country. You’re looking only for similarities and ignoring the key differences that prove your narrative highly flawed.
Bahahhhahahha I’ll take whatever you’re smoking.
I don’t smoke. I’m not sure which you believe is funny, the idea that the commanding heights of industry are publicly owned in large SOEs, or that the working class controls the state, but both are factually true and easily verified. For example, when looking at publicly owned industries, we can see the following:
Even checking Wikipedia, data from 2022 shows that the overwhelming majority of the top companies are publicly owned SOEs. This is China’s strategy, they’ve been honest about it from the beginning. The private sector is about half cooperatives like Huawei or farming cooperarives and sole proprietorships, with the other half being small and medium firms. As these grow, they are folded into the public sector gradually. This is China’s Socialist Market Economy.
As for the state being run by the working classes, this is also pretty straightforward. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the CPC, a working class party, dominates the state. At a democratic level, local elections are direct, while higher levels are elected by lower rungs. At the top, constant opinion gathering and polling occurs, gathering public opinion, driving gradual change. This system is better elaborated on in Professor Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance, and we can see the class breakdown of the top of the government itself:
Overall, this system has resulted in over 90% of the population approving the government, which is shown to be consistent and accurate. If you want to learn more, while not nearly as in-depth due to time limits as Roland Boer’s work (and mostly focused on the Xi Jinping era), Red Pen’s A Summary of Xi Jinping’s Governance of China can be a good primer! There’s also This is how China’s economic model works: Explaining Socialism with Chinese Characteristics by Geopolitical Economy Report.