• Serinus@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    On the other hand, this is a fine time for this conversation. We do have roughly a year to find a candidate that’s not fucking Newsom just because he could meme for a minute.

    I don’t mind a few memes in our politics, but I do want there to be some kind of substance under the memes. And not the substance Magats have found under theirs, 💩.

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      3 hours ago

      no. this shit is the reason we’re in this situation, innocent citizens getting rounded up, deported, murdered. because so many people wanted to moralize, “vote their conscience,” “wE dIdNt GeT a PrImArY”…whatthefuckever, while the rest of us were shouting that everyone’s top priority needs to be keeping trump out of the white house.

      so again: if it ends up that newsom, or harris, or a fucking lobotomized muskrat ends up being the candidate–VOTE FOR THE FUCKING MUSKRAT instead of trump, or 3rd party, or, ffs sitting out

      i will die on this hill. you might too

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        I mean, I generally agree with you, but like most things this isn’t black and white. It’s a nuanced thing that needs to be handled with care. I get it; Large movements are terrible at nuance.

        While we’re two years out from the start of the campaign, we can certainly encourage the Dems to find an actual progressive.

        Hillary was better than Newsom. It’s funny that California Dems are blasted as the most liberal, when they might be the most conservative Dems outside of West Virginia.

        Yes, anything is better than fascism. That point was more important 18 months ago, and might be more important again 12 months from now.

        It’s also important how you say what you have to say. Dems are absolutely not the ones to blame for all this shit. Not doing enough is not the same as directly causing the disaster.