Most chips are made in China. This is bigoted nonsense. Just because some US billionaire is not in the middle means nothing. Every single one of your overpriced marketing ““brands”” is shipping stuff that says made in China somewhere on it. Nearly all chip packaging is done in Asia too, even for so called US companies. Silicon has been a global thing this whole time. The USA is mostly incapable of foundry logistics as these places use large quantities of hazardous materials you will mostly find mentioned under war crimes use. Having that stuff driving around in the primitive backwards USA is stupid dangerous. Rail connections are the only option and even this infrastructure is ancient unreliable garbage that results in bigger catastrophes. Buy Chinese. They are pro community far more than anything in the USA Flock fascist Epsteinian surveillance state. Chinese DRAM ain’t on the Epstein STI list.
Dude, if you’re going to parrot Chinese propaganda, at least be factual. Samsung’s memory fabs are all in either Korea or the US. Micron has them all over the place, but the fabs in China are drastically outnumbered by those in other countries. Only SK Hynix is anywhere close to having “most” of its chips made in China, and that’s split 50/50.
In short, do the barest amount of investigation or shut the fuck up. Preferably, both.
Thank you for teaching us the non-bigoted words to use when talking about countries. I’m sure you wouldn’t throw a hissy fit if we used them about China
Unless there is strict 3rd party (out of country) quality control or there is financial motivation for proper QA, Chinese electronics are usually trash. The market is flooded with cheap Chinese silicon fakes, which has caused significant price increases to verify legitimate parts. If its not “original” pirated silicon that is the issue, it’s filed off package marking with a shitty re-badge.
You can keep barking that nationalist bullshit, but it doesn’t change the fact that I have to rebuild any equipment that I need at a slight discount and don’t want it to kill me because of a 2 cent savings on a missing ground.
Unlike you, I don’t give a flying fuck about talking shit about another country. It’s the electronics that matter to me, and if you haven’t seen the absolute shit show that is Alibaba, you have your head so deep in the sand you are never going to experience that sweet smell of burning, pirated XT-60 connectors.
I have delt with so many fake parts smuggled into legit supply chains it would make your head spin. This isn’t a “buyer beware” issue: it’s complete lack of respect for anyone else further down the supply chain.
At least stay on-point if you are trying to defend something, FFS.
A response that is actually in context: Considering how expensive it is to build a fab for a component as critical and delicate as RAM, there is incentive to perform proper QA for products released under the original brand. Having a fab fail because of reputation is not likely an option. Rebranding wouldn’t help as modules can be de-capped and the source vendor could still be identified.
The success or failure of this vendor is going to be how well they physically control their bottom tier bins and ensure that any waste product doesn’t get funneled back into the supply chain. With China specifically, it seems the incentives are much higher for that behavior. Again, if you doubt that, I can point you in the direction of thousands of bunk components.
As with any company that is state owned or state backed, the potential security risk is much higher. I am not just pointing directly at one country in this case. Some governments may pose higher risks than others though. (From a security perspective, you would want trojaned components to be as reliable as possible, TBH.)
Most chips are made in China. This is bigoted nonsense. Just because some US billionaire is not in the middle means nothing. Every single one of your overpriced marketing ““brands”” is shipping stuff that says made in China somewhere on it. Nearly all chip packaging is done in Asia too, even for so called US companies. Silicon has been a global thing this whole time. The USA is mostly incapable of foundry logistics as these places use large quantities of hazardous materials you will mostly find mentioned under war crimes use. Having that stuff driving around in the primitive backwards USA is stupid dangerous. Rail connections are the only option and even this infrastructure is ancient unreliable garbage that results in bigger catastrophes. Buy Chinese. They are pro community far more than anything in the USA Flock fascist Epsteinian surveillance state. Chinese DRAM ain’t on the Epstein STI list.
Um akshually, they’re made in the country of Taiwan.
Did Taiwan renounce its claim as the rightful government of all of China?
Dude, if you’re going to parrot Chinese propaganda, at least be factual. Samsung’s memory fabs are all in either Korea or the US. Micron has them all over the place, but the fabs in China are drastically outnumbered by those in other countries. Only SK Hynix is anywhere close to having “most” of its chips made in China, and that’s split 50/50.
In short, do the barest amount of investigation or shut the fuck up. Preferably, both.
Yeah, the US is a flock fascist surveillance state.
But so is China, lol. At least my social credit won’t fall for talking bad about Pedolf Diddler, unlike Xinnie the Pooh over there.
Because Reddit/Facebook and others didn’t just hand records over to the Nazis at DHS‽
Your reply is horribly ignorant. Do some fucking research and let the adults discuss.
Going by your previous post it seems you don’t have much of a grasp on the subject, either. But hey, as we say in my country “ignorance is brave”
Do they also say “吳茂因讚揚小熊維尼而獲得良好的社會聲譽。” in your country?
Thank you for teaching us the non-bigoted words to use when talking about countries. I’m sure you wouldn’t throw a hissy fit if we used them about China
All fabs have defects. The problem isn’t where they’re being made, but who is responsible for QC.
Unless there is strict 3rd party (out of country) quality control or there is financial motivation for proper QA, Chinese electronics are usually trash. The market is flooded with cheap Chinese silicon fakes, which has caused significant price increases to verify legitimate parts. If its not “original” pirated silicon that is the issue, it’s filed off package marking with a shitty re-badge.
You can keep barking that nationalist bullshit, but it doesn’t change the fact that I have to rebuild any equipment that I need at a slight discount and don’t want it to kill me because of a 2 cent savings on a missing ground.
Unlike you, I don’t give a flying fuck about talking shit about another country. It’s the electronics that matter to me, and if you haven’t seen the absolute shit show that is Alibaba, you have your head so deep in the sand you are never going to experience that sweet smell of burning, pirated XT-60 connectors.
I have delt with so many fake parts smuggled into legit supply chains it would make your head spin. This isn’t a “buyer beware” issue: it’s complete lack of respect for anyone else further down the supply chain.
At least stay on-point if you are trying to defend something, FFS.
And yet, the RAM was tested and did not explode. The point.
A response that is actually in context: Considering how expensive it is to build a fab for a component as critical and delicate as RAM, there is incentive to perform proper QA for products released under the original brand. Having a fab fail because of reputation is not likely an option. Rebranding wouldn’t help as modules can be de-capped and the source vendor could still be identified.
The success or failure of this vendor is going to be how well they physically control their bottom tier bins and ensure that any waste product doesn’t get funneled back into the supply chain. With China specifically, it seems the incentives are much higher for that behavior. Again, if you doubt that, I can point you in the direction of thousands of bunk components.
As with any company that is state owned or state backed, the potential security risk is much higher. I am not just pointing directly at one country in this case. Some governments may pose higher risks than others though. (From a security perspective, you would want trojaned components to be as reliable as possible, TBH.)
No but you see, China good because USA bad.