In 2025, around an additional 16,000 units of humanoid robots were installed worldwide, with China alone accounting for more than 80% of the installations.AGIBOT topped the global list of vendors with the highest number of annual humanoid robot installations, followed by Unitree, UBITECH, Leju and Tesla. The top five enterprises accounted for a 73% share.The cumulative installations of humanoid robots are projected to exceed 100,000 units by 2027.In terms of applications, logistics, manufacturing and automotive will represent 72% of the annual installations in 2027.Seoul, Beijing, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Fort Collins, Hong Kong, London, New Delhi, Taipei, Tokyo – Jan 14, 2025
Cuba for one. China has been working very hard towards it (to a much further extent than any Western country) but due to their massive population it’s debatable of they’ve gotten there for every single labour job yet, but they will.
Cuba’s labor exploitation exists even without private sweatshops: the state monopolizes most employment, forbids independent unions and collective bargaining, prevents workers from freely changing jobs or negotiating pay, and in key sectors the government confiscates passports, imposes penalties for leaving assignments, monitors workers, and keeps the majority of wages paid by foreign governments, all of which meet internationally recognized indicators of coercive and exploitative labor, regardless of whether the employer is the state rather than a private firm.
That, if true (since you didn’t link any sources), sounds at worst like the kind of exploitation that Westerners like you and me rely on (from “undocumented” or even documented immigrants in your own country, resource extraction sectors in developing countries, cheap overseas manufacturing, etc) that allows us to make the illusion of a living wage from what little work we do in comparison. In reality Cuba would actually be far less exploitative than us because we do all of what you described and much, much worse to people you never see or think about. Where did that cobalt in your phone come from? What about your chocolate? Where does your e-waste go after you drop it off at a big box store before buying the newest thing? Cuba at least doesn’t prop up their own citizens at the great expense of people they deem less important.
You cannot ask for sources if you don’t supply them yourself. You just made up that shit about Cuba because you have no idea about Cuba. You’ll find a long history of labor abuse in Cuba. This just proves everything you say is bullshit hive rhetoric.
Also, you know nothing about Cuba and everything you say is straight out of the US propaganda pool which they’ve been using to justify their illegal blockade of the country. Also also, if I’m just a hive mind drone and you’re apparently not, why not post your own sources to show how much better informed you are and how much better you are than me? Seems like you don’t have sources and are deflecting from your lack of sources.
I’m not aware of any country where there isn’t enough work to go around. And last I checked, China doesn’t have problems with homeless or unemployment. Socialism doesn’t require people to work for the sake of work. In a socialist system, if it ever gets to the point where there’s not enough work to go around the solution would be to reduce working hours.
China does have unemployment but it’s rare that it results in homelessness due to how cheap it is to live there. There’s also the fact that China has mandated plots of family land for every individual to prepare their own lodging on. I know a person that had their Hukou visa expire for a smaller regional city and they lived in a yurt in Inner Mongolia for a little while on their government mandated plot while they saved money to build a house on it. Not great, but it’s a place they are legally allowed to do such a thing for no cost. Each plot also already has electric and water hookups. If you really wanted to you could just vegetate on a little plot like that somewhere and grow your own food
China does have unemployment, but it doesn’t have an unemployment problem. Generally, people who are unemployed, are doing it by choice. Some people decide delaying joining the workforce because they want to get higher education, and they can be more picky about choosing jobs. Other people are between jobs. And the point you make regarding housing and access to basic necessities is the key part I think. This is basically what people advocate for in the west when they talk about basic income. It’s not the ideal lifestyle, but you’re not living on the street, and you have your needs met even if you aren’t working.
I think you should check again, seeing as China has unemployment issues. Something that is very well known and documented. Of course, that would mean you’d have to accept facts, and I think ML are incapable of that. Keep simping!
So you admit there is unemployment, how do you think other ML are going to react to that statement? Is there 5% homelessness too or are you too scared to talk about it now?
Anything between 4-6% is generally considered full employment by most countries, including the US. At that level the unemployment mostly consists of people between jobs, rather than people in long-term unemployment where they have no hope of finding work.
The homelessness number you’re referencing is misleading. They’re not unhoused, they’re living outside of their registered address. A day laborer that moves from city to city and stays in group homes is considered “homeless” but they’re not actually living on the street. Much of rural China has yet to be developed to a level that can sustain employment, so they have to migrate.
You don’t know me. I care about humanity. I don’t care to simp for any government on earth. So, sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t care.
And so you agree having AI robots take over manual labor jobs is a good thing. And, this would lead to AI taking over non-manual labor jobs—which is a good thing, right? Because when no one has any work to do… you firmly believe the people in power will just provide utopia for all…. Right? You agree? AI is good, and to you love it?
Do you want to work for a wage for the rest of your life simply to survive? I certainly don’t.
We have to be careful, because if the AI which automates our labor is owned privately then it will be used to eliminate our jobs and then eliminate the surplus population left behind. AI which is owned collectively, however, will liberate us from work.
We just have to get to that stage of collective ownership. China hasn’t reached that stage of socialist development but they’re closer than anyone else and seem to be progressing in that direction. Not that you care, you just want to pick fights.
Only people traumatized by living in capitalist states would be upset about manual labor being automated.
Do you know of a country who pays their manual laborers a living wage even if they don’t have work?
Ones that don’t exploit immigration or prison as a source of cheap labour. AKA nowhere in the West.
So, what are the names?
Cuba for one. China has been working very hard towards it (to a much further extent than any Western country) but due to their massive population it’s debatable of they’ve gotten there for every single labour job yet, but they will.
Cuba’s labor exploitation exists even without private sweatshops: the state monopolizes most employment, forbids independent unions and collective bargaining, prevents workers from freely changing jobs or negotiating pay, and in key sectors the government confiscates passports, imposes penalties for leaving assignments, monitors workers, and keeps the majority of wages paid by foreign governments, all of which meet internationally recognized indicators of coercive and exploitative labor, regardless of whether the employer is the state rather than a private firm.
That, if true (since you didn’t link any sources), sounds at worst like the kind of exploitation that Westerners like you and me rely on (from “undocumented” or even documented immigrants in your own country, resource extraction sectors in developing countries, cheap overseas manufacturing, etc) that allows us to make the illusion of a living wage from what little work we do in comparison. In reality Cuba would actually be far less exploitative than us because we do all of what you described and much, much worse to people you never see or think about. Where did that cobalt in your phone come from? What about your chocolate? Where does your e-waste go after you drop it off at a big box store before buying the newest thing? Cuba at least doesn’t prop up their own citizens at the great expense of people they deem less important.
You cannot ask for sources if you don’t supply them yourself. You just made up that shit about Cuba because you have no idea about Cuba. You’ll find a long history of labor abuse in Cuba. This just proves everything you say is bullshit hive rhetoric.
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/socialism_faq.md#on-cuba
Not a source in itself but links to many sources.
Also, you know nothing about Cuba and everything you say is straight out of the US propaganda pool which they’ve been using to justify their illegal blockade of the country. Also also, if I’m just a hive mind drone and you’re apparently not, why not post your own sources to show how much better informed you are and how much better you are than me? Seems like you don’t have sources and are deflecting from your lack of sources.
I’m not aware of any country where there isn’t enough work to go around. And last I checked, China doesn’t have problems with homeless or unemployment. Socialism doesn’t require people to work for the sake of work. In a socialist system, if it ever gets to the point where there’s not enough work to go around the solution would be to reduce working hours.
China does have unemployment but it’s rare that it results in homelessness due to how cheap it is to live there. There’s also the fact that China has mandated plots of family land for every individual to prepare their own lodging on. I know a person that had their Hukou visa expire for a smaller regional city and they lived in a yurt in Inner Mongolia for a little while on their government mandated plot while they saved money to build a house on it. Not great, but it’s a place they are legally allowed to do such a thing for no cost. Each plot also already has electric and water hookups. If you really wanted to you could just vegetate on a little plot like that somewhere and grow your own food
China does have unemployment, but it doesn’t have an unemployment problem. Generally, people who are unemployed, are doing it by choice. Some people decide delaying joining the workforce because they want to get higher education, and they can be more picky about choosing jobs. Other people are between jobs. And the point you make regarding housing and access to basic necessities is the key part I think. This is basically what people advocate for in the west when they talk about basic income. It’s not the ideal lifestyle, but you’re not living on the street, and you have your needs met even if you aren’t working.
I think you should check again, seeing as China has unemployment issues. Something that is very well known and documented. Of course, that would mean you’d have to accept facts, and I think ML are incapable of that. Keep simping!
Source: it came to me in a dream.
As expected, lol. Thanks for admitting it at least.
Glad to admit that I know you’re full of shit.
lol. Fash
you didn’t have to spell it out for us, your comments have already made it crystal clear
It’s 5.1%
That’s considered pretty good in most countries.
So you admit there is unemployment, how do you think other ML are going to react to that statement? Is there 5% homelessness too or are you too scared to talk about it now?
USA is 4.3% ( if you trust that number)
Anything between 4-6% is generally considered full employment by most countries, including the US. At that level the unemployment mostly consists of people between jobs, rather than people in long-term unemployment where they have no hope of finding work.
The homelessness number you’re referencing is misleading. They’re not unhoused, they’re living outside of their registered address. A day laborer that moves from city to city and stays in group homes is considered “homeless” but they’re not actually living on the street. Much of rural China has yet to be developed to a level that can sustain employment, so they have to migrate.
Not that you care.
You don’t know me. I care about humanity. I don’t care to simp for any government on earth. So, sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t care.
And so you agree having AI robots take over manual labor jobs is a good thing. And, this would lead to AI taking over non-manual labor jobs—which is a good thing, right? Because when no one has any work to do… you firmly believe the people in power will just provide utopia for all…. Right? You agree? AI is good, and to you love it?
You can’t stop socialism.
You can’t stop AI.
We will win, and you can’t do anything about it except rage on the internet.
Do you want to work for a wage for the rest of your life simply to survive? I certainly don’t.
We have to be careful, because if the AI which automates our labor is owned privately then it will be used to eliminate our jobs and then eliminate the surplus population left behind. AI which is owned collectively, however, will liberate us from work.
We just have to get to that stage of collective ownership. China hasn’t reached that stage of socialist development but they’re closer than anyone else and seem to be progressing in that direction. Not that you care, you just want to pick fights.