• Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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    The white woman is being hypocritical in not applying intersectionality when it doesn’t affect her.

    And the guy is wrong.

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      being hypocritical in not applying intersectionality when it doesn’t affect her.

      I’m still stupid, can you fix the multiple negatives so I can understand

      And the guy is wrong.

      ok. thank you.

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        I believe it’s essentially the “Black Lives Matter” /“All Lives Matter” situation. Yes, we are striving for equality, but the movements are worded to highlight those who are most affected/disenfranchised by the status quo.

        Woman gets it when she’s talking about the movement that applies specifically to her disenfranchisement, but not when she’s in the “out” group of a rights movement

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          I believe that is the point of the comic But I disagree that these are comparable.

          The all lives matter reaction was created by the far right and is coded in direct opposition of Black lives matter as a movement which they want to destroy.

          Feminism, masculism and equalism are each not good or bad but require balance.

          The goal of Feminism is to advocate for women rights, freedom, respect and understanding. We need focused feminism because our world is unbalancedly scaled towards men.

          The (intended?) goal of Masculism is the same goal as feminism but for men, we need much less of this because the world is unbalanced in male favor but we still need some people focused on it to combat against male sexism and abuse, which is more rare but equally not ok.

          The goal of equalism is to support the above to try and bring balance, to be a voice of non traditional gender groups that do not fit the traditional focus, and to opposite radical versions, comon toxic masculinity or J K Rowling style Feminism.

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            “Why is it called feminism, everyone should be treated equally,” is exactly the same as saying, “why is it black lives matter, all lives matter?”

            It’s misrepresenting their goals by saying that people who fight for one aspect of an issue are saying that no other aspect of the issue matters.

            Most people who support feminism believe that everyone should be treated equally, but one gender needs a lot more lifting up to get equality.

            It’s the same for BLM.

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              Feminists continue to lobby for priviledges in the west in aspects where they are already clearly ahead. They’ve stepped firmly into the side exceptionalism and supremacy.

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                Feminism is a very important tool in the fight for men’s liberation. We men have to realize that we have been manipulated into fighting against our own interests.

                We have been told it is masculine to act individualistically, but it is in our best interests to act collectively.

                We have been taught that it is masculine to hide our feelings, but it is in our interests to show them, so that others can understand our struggles.

                We are taught as men it is weak to ask for help. But helping others makes all of us stronger.

                Feminism is for men’s rights too.

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              To add to my other comment, the real ideology where people literally believe the words “all lives matter” is actually antifascism. And as an antifascist I support BLM just as i would support a person of any other color that is the victim of racism of any kind of other human.

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                  Are my comments really this confusing, i thought my point was pretty clear.

                  But to Summarize yet againW

                  Fake antifa is called “all lives matter”

                  Actual “all lives matter” is called antifa/anarchism.

                  There is no racist “balanced stance” for what equalism is about, so they invade the real one.

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                Right, but the phrase “all lives matter” is a racist response to the BLM movement. The simple fact that you have to explain that you’re not being racist when saying it shows this.

                It’s just the nature of things. I can’t have a mustache because it only grows beneath my nose. Some asshole went and ruined that style for everyone.

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                  You mis understand me, i very much agree that “all lives matter” is a racist dog wistle.

                  I am saying that equalism gets invaded by toxic masculism while “antifa” does not because fascist feel to strong about it.

                  There for they had to invent “all lives matter” to be a racist copy of antifa/anarchism. Its thus not comparable to how equalism does get invaded.

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              Yes but I don’t think a proper equalist should make such a dumb statement, those are usually misogynists maskerading as equalist.

              I consider myself an equalist and i have stated above exactly why i think feminism is important. To be an equalist in this time o history means to support feminism.

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        The white woman is being hypocritical. She expects the guy to understand her particular case. She cannot use the same logic to understand the black women’s case.

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        The man is trying to paper over the issues that divide men and women, the same way the white woman is papering over the issues that divide white and black women.