It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it and then somehow they got a picture of his dick and we’re going around shoving it in eachothers faces and calling eachother gay “because they looked at this guy’s dick”. They started drinking the same energy drinks that he drank. I wish someone would do a psychological study on it is weird. It’s a thing
It’s because they probably had shitty Dads
Adding to shit post .
Downloaded. Definitely going to use this next time I see some CHUD making wildly sweeping statements about trans ppl.
- Belief in the concept of an “alpha male” necessitates having a strongman leader.
- Bootlickers need a boot to lick.
True. The problem with the whole “alpha male” leader nonsense in modern age is those leaders are supposed to protect the group, potentially to the death, as the trade off for the status. Most of the goobers stepping up to insert themselves in that role aren’t doing it for a group, just for the desire for the status alone. So really it’s just a bunch of entitled assholes that will sell the group out and run in a heartbeat as soon as they are faced with fulfilling their end of the bargain.
Both excellent points. ಠ_ಠ
Because they’re too intellectually challenged to think for themselves, so they need somebody to tell them what to believe
Because part of conservatism is the idea that hierarchies based on who your parents are, and the fact that you’re male, etc. are proper and right.
They want to submit to the people who are correctly above them in the hierarchy, and want the people who are supposed to be below them in the hierarchy to submit to them.
Because they are weak pissants with no nation, creed, or honor simply following the authority who makes them feel good about themselves. It’s kinda pathetic ain’t it? This is why I force myself to be ambivalent to all authority who aren’t part of my kin, kith, or clan by default since you can’t manipulate me with funny feelings because I already didn’t give a damn.
Or maybe I’m just from a culture that has been dealing with cultists for so long that some of us have built in anti-cult practices. Kinda a chicken and egg scenario.
Fear.
They rally around figures who look strong because they’re afraid of losing social status, or feeling xenophobia due to racism, or insecure over economic concerns. As always, everything is projection with these dipshits. They let fear drive them into the sort of groupthink mob they accuse liberals of being.
I sorta understand, I guess. But having president whatshisnuts as your figure of manliness is already a joke in itself, but elevating him to a messiah like figure is just crazy.
They call this move the handjob dance.
Dave Bautista said it looked like he was jacking off two giraffes.
I feel 21% less masculine after watching that. But that’s probably just an anomaly idk.
Air dicking
Helps if your world view is shaped by people who are continually telling you that he’s a figure of manliness, while constantly playing off your fear and insecurity for profit and political gain.
EDIT: It’s also a very unrealistic standard of what it means to be a man, almost a caricature. It’s a masculine ideal rooted in myths of the “common-sense everyman hero” who’s wisdom is more valuable than other’s knowledge, instincts more accurate than other’s intellect, and cunning able to overcome other’s skill. He’s a man who’s anger and will can overcome insurmountable odds, and who’s “rough-around-the edges” personality is more attractive than practiced social graces. There’s no need for growth or change, because our hero needs nothing more than the innate qualities he already possesses to thrive, and because of that failure is never his fault.
It’s the aesthetic of romanticized cowboys, gangsters, renegade cops, and retired spec-ops, a domesticated version of 1980’s gritty action-hero masculinity adapted for group membership. It’s always framed as bucking authority and going against the grain, even though conformity is required to be one of the “good guys”. Being low on the totem pole allows you to gain the virtue of being a simple man with a simple life, or being the trusted sergeant “who really makes things happen around here”, but doesn’t mean that you’re incapable of rising to any occasion just because you have guts. Washboard abs or hard work are only important when they can be used to show how weak and ineffective your opponents are, but what’s really important is that you’re able to dismiss, demean, deny, and destroy anything that doesn’t conform to the right way of doing things to gain the accolades you’re due and save yourself the embarrassment of having to admit your hero fantasies aren’t true.
Again, it’s ridiculous to apply this ideal to the bloated orange, but it’s an image he cultivates. His personal mythology is embodying that ideal and gaining massive success in every endeavor because of it. It allows his failings to be used as evidence that he’s “just like us”, and not as examples of his overall lack of redeeming qualities.
But I wouldn’t expect it every really make sense, because at it’s core it’s just a bullshit justification for getting whatever they want with as little effort as possible.
That’s absurd AF but it actually does make sense in a weird, twisted worldview sort of way. Thanks for the explanation!
Because in reality they are betas, they call themselves alphas but they are easily manipulated and they are lap dogs of powerful people
They are literally betas by their own definition of social hierarchy.
You’re telling me it’s all daddy issues?
They dream of hard peen.
The German philosopher Hannah Arendt asked herself a very similar question when, during the trial of Nazi official and war criminal Adolf Eichmann, she attempted to understand how a human being could be capable of such monstrous atrocities. In this context, she coined the expression “banality of evil.”
It is worth taking a look at her book “Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil,” because her observations in it are, unfortunately, once again highly relevant today.
I love how they are all “don’t tread on me” on the bumper sticker, but in reality they are all “step on me harder daddy”.
Because their dads were abusive authoritarians, so they have daddy issues.
This isn’t an excuse they’re just weak. Many have authoritarian fathers or parents and come out vowing to never be like that or support that behavior.
They’re the ones who don’t.
I think they’re born weak too, but both things can be explanations without it being an excuse.
Small town lifer here, the worst children I knew grew up very predictably. IMO, most people don’t really change much at all with age.
They don’t, sadly, and what makes it worse is the endless amounts of religious indoctrination and bullshit media constantly feeding us the narrative that people in general grow and learn over time and become better people, and that sentiment has been internalized at every possible level of society at large, but (as a general rule, nothing is universal) things couldn’t be further from the truth.
I’m glad my Pop is a badass and taught me how to think and not what to think.
They don’t, sadly, and what makes it worse is the endless amounts of religious indoctrination and bullshit media constantly feeding us the narrative that people in general grow and learn over time and become better people, and that sentiment has been internalized at every possible level of society at large, but (as a general rule, nothing is universal) things couldn’t be further from the truth.
I agree with you here of course, quite strongly.
I’m glad my Pop is a badass and taught me how to think and not what to think.
So that’s the thing I think about a lot. How much influence did he really truly have on you vs you both just happening to be like-minded to begin with? Ties in with my thoughts on free will vs determinism too. My belief in a weak mind being born doomed now comes into this picture. But I’m one of those annoying compatibilists because my own father has moved slowly from staunch conservative to centrist over time. Maybe only because I’m his kid, who really knows. I’m 35 and only just got him to finally admit he was pretending to be Christian to stay with my mother. I always suspected.
Here’s where I’m coming from, so the perspective can hopefully makes more sense:
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born in a monocultural conservative town 1990 99.5% white people. Seriously I can only remember one black kid in school.
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my mother co-founded her own Baptist church.
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I wasn’t rebellious, and I even attended youth groups and bible camps regularly.
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my 2nd earliest memory I can still recall is fucking surreal: In a public elementary school, the principal lead a morning prayer once a week in the morning gym assembly. Everyone. Everyone stood up student/admin/teacher/janitor. Everyone bowed their heads to repeat the principal’s prayer. Except one of my classmates one day, she remained seated. This blew my mind. I sat down with her, and she gave me a wide grin. Who knows why, but this moment was cemented into my skull surrounded by the overwhelming majority and choosing to sit out of their mindless tradition.
I never at any point believed in any gods, nor was I at any point a conservative. How could this be given the environment I was raised in?
I think it’s simply because I was born with innate critical thinking. I also did not believe what anyone not even my own parents when they told me things at face value. The early internet and the library was where I went to see if something I was told was true or not.
~80% of humans are theists, it’s incredibly sad.
I don’t think there is a born weak mind in that sense, it seems like an out or an excuse to me, we are all the same animal, and I don’t think will is purely innate or nature, all things are a combination of both with different ratios depending on the person.
I can for sure say my dad had a severe impact on me questioning things and doing my best to find objectivity before I form my opinion on things, which lead me to planting the seed of rebellion and defiance in myself. Be it religion, politics, philosophy, authority, or what have you, he never put his views into my head about it and encouraged me to examine things more deeply when I wasn’t. Indoctrination is a bitch, and he bent over backwards to make sure he was doing the opposite. A lot of personality is innate and unchangeable, but if you’re not fucked by that then ideology and opinions are malleable, it just depends on weather or not you’ve learned to be molded by others or yourself, and religious indoctrination from birth fucks up all of the gauges if there isn’t anything else to add influence, which I saw a lot as I also grew up around a very religious community that often shunned me for questioning, I was luckily taught self definition.
I"m not convinced all our blank slate minds are all born equal but I appreciate the responses it’s good food for thought.
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Political posts like this tend to frame things in extremes. In reality, people across the spectrum can be loyal to leaders or critical of them—it’s usually more nuanced than a single label suggests.
Agreed. I see it as a prominent trait among many genetic corridors.
