Yes, 100% true and also 100% irrelevant. The delta in NYC between base load and peak load is almost 5GW. And the base load itself is about 5GW. Given that peak loads happens only for 0.1% of the year, you can easily see that the problem has almost nothing to do with base load and everything to do with the rapid scaling up of peak load. This is why AC compressors are the culprit. They are fully automated, distributed, and they all kick on under shared environmental triggers. The starting up of ACs during a heatwave is literally almost equivalent to 100% of NYC base load.
Shutting off a few 10s of MW for lighting cannot solve the problem.
It’s actually a bit silly to call lighting a “base load”. That’s not how the grid works. Base load is specifically talking about the grid itself and what the lowest load is on the grid. They don’t have an actuarial table where your refrigerator gets put into the base load bucket while your bathroom lights are put in the peak load bucket. It’s all one load.
What power companies are looking at is the demand curve. The lowest level of the demand curve is the base load. That’s all it is.
Things do get trickier with commercial power, especially when talking about machinery. But for something as simple as lighting it’s completely straight forward. Turning off 150MW of lights frees 150MW of peeker capacity which can be used for more useful things like boiling water in a data center to answer questions wrong (I kid).
So is my air conditioner. It’s not like me turning the dial up a few degrees is going to keep the world spinning properly. /s
It’s not just Times Square just like it’s not just my AC. Times Square is a visual representation of how seriously the city and it’s residents take the issue. If those lights are blaring, then I assume a whole lot of other corporate power consumption is likewise excepted.
That’s just vibes though. Your AC is a node in a distributed cooling system that all respond to the same ambient environmental signals which means they act in a distributed coordinated manner. There are government systems for power reduction of commercial spaces - certifications, tax incentives, negawatt incentives, etc. The distributed system of ACs is almost impossible to manage because it’s functionally anarchic. And the combination of your AC and all 8m of your neighbors’ ACs turns out to be an order of magnitude more draw than all of the lighting in the entire city.
Trump is President because of “vibes”. Vibes matter because they influence behavior. Just look at the stock market. There will be more compressors working harder because of the vibes put out by those lights. Guaranteed.
If you look at the difference between base load and peak load, it would be obvious that the lights are inconsequential to peak load.
Peak load consists of base load plus variable components. Turning off some of the base load reduces peak load.
Yes, 100% true and also 100% irrelevant. The delta in NYC between base load and peak load is almost 5GW. And the base load itself is about 5GW. Given that peak loads happens only for 0.1% of the year, you can easily see that the problem has almost nothing to do with base load and everything to do with the rapid scaling up of peak load. This is why AC compressors are the culprit. They are fully automated, distributed, and they all kick on under shared environmental triggers. The starting up of ACs during a heatwave is literally almost equivalent to 100% of NYC base load.
Shutting off a few 10s of MW for lighting cannot solve the problem.
It’s actually a bit silly to call lighting a “base load”. That’s not how the grid works. Base load is specifically talking about the grid itself and what the lowest load is on the grid. They don’t have an actuarial table where your refrigerator gets put into the base load bucket while your bathroom lights are put in the peak load bucket. It’s all one load.
What power companies are looking at is the demand curve. The lowest level of the demand curve is the base load. That’s all it is.
Things do get trickier with commercial power, especially when talking about machinery. But for something as simple as lighting it’s completely straight forward. Turning off 150MW of lights frees 150MW of peeker capacity which can be used for more useful things like boiling water in a data center to answer questions wrong (I kid).
So is my air conditioner. It’s not like me turning the dial up a few degrees is going to keep the world spinning properly. /s
It’s not just Times Square just like it’s not just my AC. Times Square is a visual representation of how seriously the city and it’s residents take the issue. If those lights are blaring, then I assume a whole lot of other corporate power consumption is likewise excepted.
That’s just vibes though. Your AC is a node in a distributed cooling system that all respond to the same ambient environmental signals which means they act in a distributed coordinated manner. There are government systems for power reduction of commercial spaces - certifications, tax incentives, negawatt incentives, etc. The distributed system of ACs is almost impossible to manage because it’s functionally anarchic. And the combination of your AC and all 8m of your neighbors’ ACs turns out to be an order of magnitude more draw than all of the lighting in the entire city.
Trump is President because of “vibes”. Vibes matter because they influence behavior. Just look at the stock market. There will be more compressors working harder because of the vibes put out by those lights. Guaranteed.