• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      America has done really bad things. Bringing up Paperclip is weird. A bunch of nazi scientists were moved out of Germany. And?

      Von Braun used slave labor. He should have stood trial. That’s brainwashing?

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        And got into schools, indoctrinated children, taught them to be powerless at the face of fascist rise in 🇺🇲. We are seeing today the fruits of those Nazi seeds planted being harvested. You either enjoy the Nazi cake being served to you by your führer, or you actually liberate comrades right now being killed in deathcamps.

        There’s no trial coming for the participants of fascist violations. There never has been.

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          1600 scientists out of 139 Million Americans is what made America fascist? Come on. America had 10,000 members of the American Nazi party before WW2. Not to mention that not all of those scientists were die hard Nazis just like all American scientists aren’t MAGA.

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              It does. What is absurd is your use of Operation Paperclip as the example of American evil and the source of modern American nazism.

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                It does

                So are you arguing America was Nazi even before the immigrations+integrations of Nazis, and that it was a bonus, or that there was nothing wrong American Nazism and integration of Nazis?

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                  I’m saying America had Nazis before Operation Paperclip and Paperclip had no effect on American Nazis.

                  All American scientists aren’t Maga. All German scientists weren’t die hard Nazis. And even if they were it was so small as to be statistically meaningless.

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                    But they are no longer “statistically meaningless”: they are the major party enforcing their policies on the masses. They are the Marines, DHS, ICE, the FBI, MAGA, the Supreme Court Justices, Senate/GOP, and the donors to Trump.

                    We, leftists, are saying the fascist government cannot be fixed from the inside. It’s ahistorical, it has never worked by elections, it never will.