• MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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    That’s literally the point. They are trying to goad the Left into screaming Hitler. When we do so, we generally sound hysterical to the centre and independents whom we need.

    Donald wins when we’re sputtering with rage.

    If you’ve ever been a dick to a younger sibling so they freak out and get in trouble despite technically being in the right, you’ll recognise the tactic.

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      … to the centre and independents whom we need.

      kamala harris said the same thing and so did hillary clinton.

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        ??? Clinton, one of the most unpopular candidates in history, came within a couple hundred thousand votes.

        Harris lost running on massive inflation, in the same wave that saw almost every incumbent government thrown out by historic margins and still came within only a couple of points of trump.

        I’d also argue Harris was a bit doomed because of how hard we took the bait last time and screamed HITLER at every provocation. The independents and centrists who watched that and endured a bad but relatively normal presidency learned the lesson that the Left exaggerates and that their warnings are without merit. If we’d “kept our powder dry” maybe we could’ve convinced them the 6th was as bad as it was but, like my younger sister, we just screamed, took the bait and lost despite being right.

        Call it the party who cried HITLER.

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          axois’ reporting on the dnc’s attempt to suppress the last election’s post mortem investigation and the yougov polls of pro-biden/anti-harris voters have shown us that harris lost 10 million votes because of gaza.

          these people were disaffected by the system in the same way that it disaffected clinton’s voters despite registered democrats outnumbering registered republicans.

          so many are disaffected now that there aren’t enough 3rd party voters to make up for the difference.

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            the yougov polls of pro-biden/anti-harris voters have shown us that harris lost 10 million votes because of gaza.

            Imagine biting propaganda so hard that in the name of Palestiniansyou actively made things even worse for them and hundreds of thousands if not millions across the world.

            I’d love to see the source on this though because 10 million is a wild number. Harris had 6 million fewer votes than Biden, so somehow losing ten million votes on something that wasn’t the top election issue seems like an… Interesting claim.

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                Homeslice, nothing in there says anything about millions of votes, let alone ten million.

                The closest you get would be

                "the DNC shared with us that their own data also found that policy was, in their words, a ‘net-negative’ in the 2024 election.

                There were many net negative issues, like say, inflation and immigration which rated higher in most polling about voter issues etc.

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            harris lost 10 million votes because of gaza.

            Yet Trump was much worse for Gaza than any of the democrats would have been.

            And that wasn’t a surprise before the election. Trump was Bibi’s buddy the last time he was in power but people conveniently ignored that.

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      ‘Bbbut… My party didnt say they werent Hitler! Ima gonna sit it out until my party fields a candidate that does!’