Relations between the neighbours have plunged in recent months, with land border crossings largely shut since deadly fighting in October that killed more than 70 people on both sides.
  • TheMightyCat@ani.social
    6·
    12 hours ago

    I’m as much against the US as the next guy but how is it the west’s fault that Pakistan is now bombing Afghanistan?

    • The Pakistani Airforce dropping the bombs.
    • The Pakistani Taliban attacking Pakistan.
    • The Taliban allowing the Pakistani Taliban to operate.

    You need to go many layers down before it starts being the West’s fault.

    Either by saying it’s the West’s fault that Pakistan is now bombing Afghanistan because they retreated and the Taliban took power.

    Or by saying it’s the West’s fault that Pakistan is now bombing Afghanistan because they supported the Mujahideen which eventually led to the collapse of the DRA and the Taliban took power.

    Sure there is responsibility, but there are many actors that have way more direct responsibility over this current event before we reach the West.

      • IronBird@lemmy.world
        1·
        48 minutes ago

        the IRA was just the taliban in uniform, anyone who spent any amount of time in that samdbox can confirm that

      • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
        5·
        11 hours ago

        Also that time when Donald Trump just released 5,000 Taliban fighters. Probably a pretty significant factor.

      • TheMightyCat@ani.social
        5·
        11 hours ago

        Either by saying it’s the West’s fault that Pakistan is now bombing Afghanistan because they retreated and the Taliban took power.

        Yes but what im asking is why does the west get blamed for Pakistan bombing Afghanistan when:

        1. Pakistan bombs Afghanistan.
        2. They do this because the Pakistani Taliban attacks them.
        3. They can do this because the Taliban supports them
        4. The Taliban can support them because they are in power
        5. The Taliban is in power because the West lost the war.

        We are 5 steps away before we reach the West, yet the West is blamed.

        Saying the west “gave” back power to the Taliban is saying like Ukraine gave back Crimea to the Russians.

        If you truly want to say the west gave power to the Taliban we would need to go further back.

        1. Pakistan bombs Afghanistan.
        2. They do this because the Pakistani Taliban attacks them.
        3. They can do this because the Taliban supports them
        4. The Taliban can support them because they are in power
        5. The Taliban is in power because the West lost the war.
        6. The west invaded Afghanistan because of Osama Bin Laden
        7. Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan because the Taliban gave him safe refuge
        8. The Taliban could give him safe refuge because they were in power
        9. The Taliban were in power because the DRA collapsed.
        10. The DRA Collapsed because the Soviets Withdrew support.
        11. The Soviets withdrew support because the Mujahideen was too strong
        12. The Mujahideen was strong because the West supported them.

        That’s 12 steps away before the West causing this. outside of 5, were the West lost the war if you want to blame them for that.

        If any of these things acted different this wouldn’t have happend.

        Why is it only the West that is mentioned?

        • bufalo1973@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          9 hours ago

          If Afghanistan wasn’t a Taliban regime it would be a war of Pakistan and Afghanistan vs Taliban. No Kabul bombing.

          • TheMightyCat@ani.social
            1·
            2 hours ago

            And if Pakistan didn’t send planes then there would be no Kabul bombing.

            If the Pakistani Taliban didn’t attack Pakisfan there would be no Kabul Bombing.

            If the Taliban didn’t support the Pakistani Taliban there would be no Kabul bombing.

            The west fought the Taliban for 20 years, how long should they have fought on? 30? 50?