I mean there may be legal questions about transferring ownership.
As for price, the question then arises - who is offering to pay for it?
Maybe if you reach out to the admin, they’d be happy to transfer it to you. I don’t know how these things work or the admin’s opinions. But the admin saying “It’s been good guys, but it’s too expensive and not what I hoped for, so I’ll keep it up for this last lease period and then let it go” is hardly a declaration of “Go fuck yourselves, I’m just burning everything down”
I’m not disputing that it’s desirable to acquire the server and perpetuate it over starting a new one, my point is only that the admin no longer being able to hold up the burden is hardly an act of spite.
And “fuck yourselves” is explicitly how several websites I care about have disappeared.
Okay, but as I said, that’s hardly the tone or implication here.
Oh sure, that’s why the announcement is about looking for someone to take over. Can you imagine if the admin simply announced a definitive end because they stopped giving a shit?
Oh sure, that’s why the announcement is about looking for someone to take over.
Most people would not presume that there’s someone waiting in the wings willing to take up a thankless job and pay a regular fee for the privilege over a small hobby project.
No one running this software thinks they’re the last person who’ll ever bother. They got into it figuring it was a sensible protocol and they only bail once they cannot be arsed to moderate all the people who show up.
Surely the fediverse is better-off letting some existing userbase soldier on, under whoever constitutes new management, than destroying any existing instance and expecting a fresh spate of randos to show up.
Transferring it to someone else isn’t that simple. I mean, I guess it can be if you’re willing to hand it over to some random stranger with zero vetting… and then hope they don’t do anything malicious.
Ideally, you’d want to hand it over to someone trustworthy. That takes work.
Would it really be worse to let a flawed bastard take over, versus deleting everyone and all their content?
A flawed bastard might be a government. Given that the US is in full fascist mode, I personally would consider deleting everyone’s content the fast, easy, and secure option. Although, not necessarily the best option for the community.
‘Hey could you maybe transfer this important established server to anyone else?’
‘Nope! Fuck yourselves! <3’
There may be legal questions, but also, they mentioned that the price of keeping it running was a factor.
The thing about transferring ownership is that price stops being your problem.
I mean there may be legal questions about transferring ownership.
As for price, the question then arises - who is offering to pay for it?
Maybe if you reach out to the admin, they’d be happy to transfer it to you. I don’t know how these things work or the admin’s opinions. But the admin saying “It’s been good guys, but it’s too expensive and not what I hoped for, so I’ll keep it up for this last lease period and then let it go” is hardly a declaration of “Go fuck yourselves, I’m just burning everything down”
There’s gonna be more Lemmy servers.
A new one will be worse-off than taking over an existing one, as a rule.
For all the same reasons that having a new NSFW-heavy server doesn’t make up for LemmyNSFW disappearing and taking years of content with it.
And “fuck yourselves” is explicitly how several websites I care about have disappeared.
I’m not disputing that it’s desirable to acquire the server and perpetuate it over starting a new one, my point is only that the admin no longer being able to hold up the burden is hardly an act of spite.
Okay, but as I said, that’s hardly the tone or implication here.
Oh sure, that’s why the announcement is about looking for someone to take over. Can you imagine if the admin simply announced a definitive end because they stopped giving a shit?
Most people would not presume that there’s someone waiting in the wings willing to take up a thankless job and pay a regular fee for the privilege over a small hobby project.
There’s gonna be more Lemmy servers.
No one running this software thinks they’re the last person who’ll ever bother. They got into it figuring it was a sensible protocol and they only bail once they cannot be arsed to moderate all the people who show up.
Surely the fediverse is better-off letting some existing userbase soldier on, under whoever constitutes new management, than destroying any existing instance and expecting a fresh spate of randos to show up.
Transferring it to someone else isn’t that simple. I mean, I guess it can be if you’re willing to hand it over to some random stranger with zero vetting… and then hope they don’t do anything malicious.
Ideally, you’d want to hand it over to someone trustworthy. That takes work.
There’s two entire months between this announcement and the fuck-you date.
How long should it take to vet someone?
Would it really be worse to let a flawed bastard take over, versus deleting everyone and all their content?
How would you pick a successor?
A flawed bastard might be a government. Given that the US is in full fascist mode, I personally would consider deleting everyone’s content the fast, easy, and secure option. Although, not necessarily the best option for the community.
Divine right? Lob a scimitar at them? 🤷♂️
The US government running its own Lemmy instance would not be worse than any established instance suddenly disappearing.
Why is that server important?
Any established server is important, by being distinct from a new one with no established user base. Adoption is a feature you cannot design.
Right right. But why is that specific server important?
‘Any established userbase matters.’
‘But why this userbase?’
Incorrect.
Great reasoning. 👍