Non-voters already have no motivation to go to the polls even with the current state of the world and you’ve just told them that it’s not a fairly run election lmao. Why do you think someone needs to have authority to tell you the issue here?
I think you just don’t like feeling uncomfortable with feeling like dems are going to lose yet again to the worst people on the planet if you don’t anxiously post memes and comments in support of the democrats. They aren’t organically popular. They need people like you to remind others that this system, like the divine right of kings, is a system that is will last throughout time. But this system is better because we get to choose the face of our abusers. It’s the best we can do and we don’t deserve better. Thank you for letting the livestock know their place.
No I mean the messenger in “shooting the messenger” is a person with no authority. That’s why shooting them is pointless.
Voters have authority.
You’ve got quite the complete dystopian take on elections, which is all cynical hyperbole and somehow wishful thinking, and must have taken awhile to refine so well done. But, you have the authority to throw your vote away to ensure the realization of that take so - okay.
I’m gonna go over here though where there’s a way to make things better. Because that is possible.
I’m sure when leftists are blamed again for not voting for someone funding a genocide, you’ll be all over the angry comments being like “no, you see, they told us this would happen explicitly, so it’s useless to be angry at them!” and definitely won’t join in on shooting said messengers. Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
Do voters actually have authority? How many incredibly popular policies are ignored and how many incredibly unpopular policies are pushed through regardless? Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law. Should you just make a meme that tells voters to enact their authority on all those in the Epstein files if you believe their authority exists? Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us. You don’t even know if I live in a swing state or not to ascertain if my vote actually matters. In your mind, should the only political people be those in purple states? Should people in solid red or blue states not coordinate about more helpful solutions other than voting for who kills endless people here and abroad? When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Do voters actually have authority?
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law.
Well i’m suspect of any sociological determination but the simple answer is: opinion is not a vote. We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Do you even know what leftist interests are? Maybe they’re just against your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists than we feel comfortable attaching ourselves to.
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers but have no control on their abuse since that’s just an ignorable opinion. Great job. No notes.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
Unsurprising. I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
well if it’s not environmental health, civil rights, education, and economic equity then they can GTFO. If it is, why are they voting against it?
your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists
Sure, comrade. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
Do they? Who authorizes the electors? (Technically it’s the party, isn’t it. Which proves how much good faith you have in this discussion)
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers
I don’t know what happened to you but that’s a really weird way to put it.
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
I don’t see the vibe, but i’ll allow it.
I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
No, you’re a reactionary idealist relegated to the role of watching everything turning to shit and wondering why. How will you be “still” “fighting for something better”? Shitting on practical options and accusing random people of being white supremacists? Cool. Looks like it’s working great. Your fighting is top notch. Maybe you can yell at a gas station attendant, y’know, to strike a blow against imperial colonialism.
Democratic policy is relegated to your hopes and dreams, entirely separated from the reality of the situation. You think the Dems are better than leftists at environmental health, ignoring all the bombs they blow up and federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on. You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans. It’s the leftists that spearheaded that change in the US to the great annoyance of liberals. Education. Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality. Lmao. Unless you only care about landlords and weapons manufacturers, why even make this comparison? And if your goal was to compare democrats with republicans, know that I’m not a republican and I’m telling you that you’re more aligned with republicans than leftists (maybe not in the language you use, but in the actions you allow and defend)
Electors are appointed, not elected.
Want to know what “happened to me”? Realizing the comfort I have in the west is at the death and destruction of the global south. My life isn’t worth more than theirs and if you think yours is and you deserve the ill-gotten comfort you’ve become so accustomed to, you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems. So much for your civil rights and economic equity.
You’re a reactionary that wants to push the horrors of the US back into the shadows so you can enjoy your segregated water fountain again. You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.
Sounds like some shooting the messenger stuff, alright
oh the messenger eh. The person who has no authority whatsoever? That person?
And who might that be?
Non-voters already have no motivation to go to the polls even with the current state of the world and you’ve just told them that it’s not a fairly run election lmao. Why do you think someone needs to have authority to tell you the issue here?
I think you just don’t like feeling uncomfortable with feeling like dems are going to lose yet again to the worst people on the planet if you don’t anxiously post memes and comments in support of the democrats. They aren’t organically popular. They need people like you to remind others that this system, like the divine right of kings, is a system that is will last throughout time. But this system is better because we get to choose the face of our abusers. It’s the best we can do and we don’t deserve better. Thank you for letting the livestock know their place.
No I mean the messenger in “shooting the messenger” is a person with no authority. That’s why shooting them is pointless.
Voters have authority.
You’ve got quite the complete dystopian take on elections, which is all cynical hyperbole and somehow wishful thinking, and must have taken awhile to refine so well done. But, you have the authority to throw your vote away to ensure the realization of that take so - okay.
I’m gonna go over here though where there’s a way to make things better. Because that is possible.
I’m sure when leftists are blamed again for not voting for someone funding a genocide, you’ll be all over the angry comments being like “no, you see, they told us this would happen explicitly, so it’s useless to be angry at them!” and definitely won’t join in on shooting said messengers. Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
Do voters actually have authority? How many incredibly popular policies are ignored and how many incredibly unpopular policies are pushed through regardless? Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law. Should you just make a meme that tells voters to enact their authority on all those in the Epstein files if you believe their authority exists? Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us. You don’t even know if I live in a swing state or not to ascertain if my vote actually matters. In your mind, should the only political people be those in purple states? Should people in solid red or blue states not coordinate about more helpful solutions other than voting for who kills endless people here and abroad? When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
Well i’m suspect of any sociological determination but the simple answer is: opinion is not a vote. We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
Do you even know what leftist interests are? Maybe they’re just against your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists than we feel comfortable attaching ourselves to.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers but have no control on their abuse since that’s just an ignorable opinion. Great job. No notes.
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
Unsurprising. I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
well if it’s not environmental health, civil rights, education, and economic equity then they can GTFO. If it is, why are they voting against it?
Sure, comrade. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
Do they? Who authorizes the electors? (Technically it’s the party, isn’t it. Which proves how much good faith you have in this discussion)
I don’t know what happened to you but that’s a really weird way to put it.
I don’t see the vibe, but i’ll allow it.
No, you’re a reactionary idealist relegated to the role of watching everything turning to shit and wondering why. How will you be “still” “fighting for something better”? Shitting on practical options and accusing random people of being white supremacists? Cool. Looks like it’s working great. Your fighting is top notch. Maybe you can yell at a gas station attendant, y’know, to strike a blow against imperial colonialism.
Democratic policy is relegated to your hopes and dreams, entirely separated from the reality of the situation. You think the Dems are better than leftists at environmental health, ignoring all the bombs they blow up and federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on. You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans. It’s the leftists that spearheaded that change in the US to the great annoyance of liberals. Education. Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality. Lmao. Unless you only care about landlords and weapons manufacturers, why even make this comparison? And if your goal was to compare democrats with republicans, know that I’m not a republican and I’m telling you that you’re more aligned with republicans than leftists (maybe not in the language you use, but in the actions you allow and defend)
Electors are appointed, not elected.
Want to know what “happened to me”? Realizing the comfort I have in the west is at the death and destruction of the global south. My life isn’t worth more than theirs and if you think yours is and you deserve the ill-gotten comfort you’ve become so accustomed to, you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems. So much for your civil rights and economic equity.
You’re a reactionary that wants to push the horrors of the US back into the shadows so you can enjoy your segregated water fountain again. You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.