[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let’s disarm the police

[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
NO,
NOT
LIKE
THIS

https://thebad.website/comic/my_little_state_violence

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      The context here is throwing out numbers unrelated to each other and coming to conclusions based on feelings.

      Making it a per capita ratio is how you add the context.

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      When we’re trying to do an Apples to Apples comparison, implying cops are more deadly than mass shooters, context is important.

      Put a kid in front of a mass shooter, they’ll shoot them.

      Put a kid in front of a cop, they’ll shoot them 0.00001% of the time (citation needed, feel free to do the math on total police encounters vs. shootings of children).

      That’s bad, but to state or imply that they’re even close to as bad is ridiculous and makes people interested in police reform look ridiculous.

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        implying cops are more deadly than mass shooters, context is important.

        Context doesn’t bring dead people back to life. Reducing higher numbers of dead to a “per capita” statistic is straight up lying to dismiss the pain of communities destroyed by police violence.

        Put a kid in front of a cop, they’ll shoot them 0.00001% of the time

        Unless they’re black and holding something, on which case it becomes 100%.

        makes people interested in police reform look ridiculous.

        You cannot reform the police. If you heard what they say about civilians in a daily basis you’d be demanding all of their heads on pikes like everyone who wants ICE to be abolished and every agent trialed for crimes against humanity.

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          Context doesn’t bring dead people back to life.

          True, but refutes nothing I said.

          Reducing higher numbers of dead to a “per capita” statistic is straight up lying to dismiss the pain of communities destroyed by police violence.

          I don’t think you know what “lying” means.

          Unless they’re black and holding something, on which case it becomes 100%.

          A straight up lie. See earlier point about ridiculous arguments.

          You cannot reform the police.

          You definitely can. Virtually all societies have improved their police over the short and long term.

          If you heard what they say about civilians in a daily basis you’d be demanding all of their heads on pikes like everyone who wants ICE to be abolished and every agent trialed for crimes against humanity.

          No I wouldn’t. I generally do not call for the execution of assholes, let alone displaying their corpses to out-do them on cruelty.

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              Look up Tamir Rice.

              I’m well aware of Tamir Rice. You’re completely unaware of how statistics work.

              Unless you think Tamir Rice is 100% of black children holding things, and no black child has ever held anything before nor will hold anything again? That’s your position here?

              Rread this article about how the police works internally by an ex-officer. There is nothing that can be done at this point to reform the American police other than a complete do-over.

              So your counter to my statement of fact that law enforcement has been reformed over time is some interview with a single guy, and your re-statement of an impossible to prove or disprove position?

              M8, are you intentionally wasting both of our time? What are you trying to accomplish by such obvious bad faith tactics?