A lot of that was shown to be misinformation. I don’t now recall which but a lot of what was claimed to be “hard-coded” was in fact not, nor was what was claimed to have been “enabled by default” actually something that occurs unless the instance admin specifically turned that option on.
It turns out that wrapping code inside of an if() statement entirely changes the program flow, altering its interpretation from “enabled by default” into “conditional upon admin request”. In case anyone was wondering.
By that terminology then, which I don’t agree with but for the sake of argument let’s go with it, Lemmy “hard-codes” itself as the instance having veto power over which communities get recommended to new instances. Lemmy also infamously hard-coded a list of cuss words that it refused to allow changing in the codebase, with Nutomic even going so far as to tell users to piss off and create their own fork of Lemmy rather than continue to bother them about it (but later after an enormous outcry relenting). In Lemmy’s defense, this was before mod tools existed iirc, which provides some crucial context imho.
Either way that’s still not “enabled by default”. Also, I apologize for being unclear: one part that was supposedly “hard-coded” was the functionality being on by default, while the other was the list being written into the code itself rather than a config file. The former turned out not to be true, while the latter is perhaps unfortunately true, yet Lemmy does the same if not much worse in this regard as well. And if we absolutely must compare the two, the PieFed devs are much more open and receptive to feedback than Lemmy’s.
Anyway, I don’t see justification to say that PieFed=bad (while using Lemmy to say that, hence implying that Lemmy=good?), as opposed to the fact that they both need additional contributors to improve themselves. One logical consequent following what you said is that people should avoid using PieFed, but I am saying that in that case we would have to avoid using Lemmy as well. But rather than be so divisive, why not encourage people to use whichever Threadiverse alternative to The Bad Place is offered as FOSS to anyone, free of ads or Algorithmic control?
I am not saying that you did so intentionally, but you were spreading misinformation and I wanted the opportunity to correct you there. PieFed is awesome! Lemmy is also awesome!
i mean if you’re browsing all, you’ll see the crossposts. it’s sorta built into the nature of the system.
the client could probably collapse them into one though.
Agreed, instaban’s are a tad heavy handed. As not everyone understands how the system works.
Piefed consolidates crossposts. Join us on the dark side.
eh, i don’t really like the “enabled-by-default, hardcoded name filters and ocr to block greentexts” thing.
A lot of that was shown to be misinformation. I don’t now recall which but a lot of what was claimed to be “hard-coded” was in fact not, nor was what was claimed to have been “enabled by default” actually something that occurs unless the instance admin specifically turned that option on.
It turns out that wrapping code inside of an if() statement entirely changes the program flow, altering its interpretation from “enabled by default” into “conditional upon admin request”. In case anyone was wondering.
hard-coded means it was defined directly in the source as opposed to being part of, for example, a configuration file. the intention was clear.
By that terminology then, which I don’t agree with but for the sake of argument let’s go with it, Lemmy “hard-codes” itself as the instance having veto power over which communities get recommended to new instances. Lemmy also infamously hard-coded a list of cuss words that it refused to allow changing in the codebase, with Nutomic even going so far as to tell users to piss off and create their own fork of Lemmy rather than continue to bother them about it (but later after an enormous outcry relenting). In Lemmy’s defense, this was before mod tools existed iirc, which provides some crucial context imho.
Either way that’s still not “enabled by default”. Also, I apologize for being unclear: one part that was supposedly “hard-coded” was the functionality being on by default, while the other was the list being written into the code itself rather than a config file. The former turned out not to be true, while the latter is perhaps unfortunately true, yet Lemmy does the same if not much worse in this regard as well. And if we absolutely must compare the two, the PieFed devs are much more open and receptive to feedback than Lemmy’s.
Anyway, I don’t see justification to say that PieFed=bad (while using Lemmy to say that, hence implying that Lemmy=good?), as opposed to the fact that they both need additional contributors to improve themselves. One logical consequent following what you said is that people should avoid using PieFed, but I am saying that in that case we would have to avoid using Lemmy as well. But rather than be so divisive, why not encourage people to use whichever Threadiverse alternative to The Bad Place is offered as FOSS to anyone, free of ads or Algorithmic control?
I am not saying that you did so intentionally, but you were spreading misinformation and I wanted the opportunity to correct you there. PieFed is awesome! Lemmy is also awesome!
They’re disabled by default
https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by