Pay securely with an Android smartphone, completely without Google services: This is the plan being developed by the newly founded industry consortium led by the German Volla Systeme GmbH. It is an open-source alternative to Google Play Integrity. This proprietary interface decides on Android smartphones with Google Play services whether banking, government, or wallet apps are allowed to run on a smartphone.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I should be able to tell my bank to only trust devices running an OS signed by the grapheneos key, and more importantly I should be able to tell them to trust an OS signed by my key.

    How do you know that your OS installation doesn’t include malware? Like there have been many cases in the last few years where npm modules were found to contain malware. Who says that’s not also the case in some modules that are a part of your OS?

    And more importantly, who is legally liable if malware actually does cause harm? E.g. malware acts on your behalf and sends your money to some criminal organization. Not only did you lose money, but now you’re a suspect of supporting a criminal organization!

    Of course that issue might be alleviated if you simply don’t have any money to send anywhere in the first place. That might be a viable alternative, but it only works for some people, i’d say. Or you could also set a daily transaction limit of say $100 that you can use to buy groceries; to limit your losses that way. The limit ofc cannot be changed from your phone alone, you need to go to a bank physically to change it or sth. Otherwise malware could again change it on your behalf.

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      And who guarantees that your PC doesn’t have malware?

      Seriously, people will gobble up all the shit served to them without a question asked or giving it a second thought.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        And who guarantees that your PC doesn’t have malware?

        Microsoft is legally responsible if the software they provide is found to actually contain malware.