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Didn’t Rotten Tangerine Hitler admit he did it to try and get a bump in his approval score because past presidents who went to war got a bump?
Have you noticed the push at the moment to try to create a moral argument AGAINST talking about the Epstein files? That’s straight out of the disinfo playbook. “C’mon guys, not everything is about the Epstein files. You’re so obsessed. Let’s move on guys, c’mon” etc.
It’s also such an easily countered argument. Something can be two things. The war is awful AND Donald Trump being a pedo rapist is ALSO awful.
I’m pretty confident though that his deep involvement with Epstein and all the crimes he committed are pretty baked into people’s consciousnesses by now though. Whatever he does, the ghost of Epstein will be waiting for him at the end.
Yeah, its both. Its terrible that Donald “Epstein Pedophile” Trump killed all those people with bombs.
Its honeslty almost MORE terrible that other people killed all those people with bombs at the will of Donald “Epstein Pedophile” Trump
Oh for fucks sake liberals are utterly pathetic.
Talk about the fucking Epstein files all you want, go for it. Better yet fucking act on it and do something to stop the Epstein class.
But none of that changes the fact that US imperialism is at play, not a distraction from the files.
There is zero repercussions for the files, and as such there is zero need for a distraction. His cultists won’t change their stance after all that’s come out, and if there was a smoking bombshell it would still receive international coverage despite Venezuela or Iran.
Lie to yourself that this isn’t business as usual and it’s just a distraction from the files, but don’t do that shit here.
Oh for fucks sake liberals are utterly pathetic.
Why is the person you replied to a liberal?
Can we stop with this bullshit? A leftist can have a disagreement with you about leftism and still be a leftist. Enough with this constant self-defeating bullshit.
Have you read a word they said? You say
Lie to yourself that this isn’t business as usual and it’s just a distraction from the files
When they’re literally saying that it can be two things at once. Obviously they think this is business as usual, and it’s also a distraction. You’re agreeing with each other. There’s no reason to be arguing here…
Did you? They did not concede this was standard Americana, they said “the war is awful” - which no fucking duh it is, that’s not the argument.
Just because they did not concede it exactly in that comment, does not mean they believe what you’re accusing them off. I’m pretty sure if you were to ask them if this was standard America, they would say “of course”.
Considering their first instinct was to come in argue that this is all disinformation to distract from the files, I fully believe that is what they meant.
When people say “its a distraction” it doesn’t mean “we can’t/don’t talk about it.”. It means themass media news etc are NOT talking about it so idiots like MAGA forget it exists.
Sounds like a psyop to artificially devide the left.
It is literally a discussion about a different theoretical perspective, disguised as a moral Attack and also stating basically a no-brainer-take.
Sounds like a liberal psyop to pretend they’re the left.
A sorry. “Discussion” was wrong.
Can we go back to “attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure is a war crime,” as was determined after WW2. Why is the world backsliding on this?, seems pretty basic.
Well yeah, Donald Trump certainly sees your life as less. That need to be said?
And while I understand the message here, I guarantee you 100% that distracting from the Epstein files was part of the thought process. That’s absolutely how he thinks. And supposedly it worked.
Its almost as if two things can be true at the same time :o
I’ve noticed this a lot lately. People not understanding that processes/actions can have multiple causes/reasons. I wonder why that is?
Echo chambers probably play a role. If you are in circle A that focuses a lot on a certain set of issues then you might attribute everything to that issue without keeping an open mind about what circle B is discussing.
So anticapitalists always think everything bad is because capitalism. Same with people focused on racism or western imperialism or tech or whatever. In reality everything interacts and affects the others.
Yes, of course they do matter. But the point is, Drumpf does think of them as nothing more than a useful distraction. He doesn’t care.
Except it partially is. Because we all know everyone was starting to get glued onto discussions of Epstein and everyone knows fully well that Trump is a convicted pedo.
The other part being, is that the US cannot for the sake of itself, stop fucking with EVERYTHING in the middle-east. Israel too and just because that country is part of the Middle-East, doesn’t excuse it.
If everyone knew, what was being gained from these discussions?
Fact is everyone knew, not enough cared to act. It doesn’t matter if he invaded anywhere, there were no repercussions coming is way.
You’ll be incredibly surprised, if you lived in America, how much exactly our politicians get away with. That includes, fucking over its citizens every waking day.
So there’s nothing to gain from a distraction?
Simple fact is Trump attacked Iran because Israel wanted him to, he attacked Venezuela because it was a US national interest to do so, and he wants to attack Cuba for the same reason.
It’s not a distraction from the files, it’s US imperialism.
I’m regretting even having said anything to someone like you. Because, yeah, everything you’ve listed is parts too. But, you don’t have the big picture and you won’t ever get the big picture unless:
- Born American
- Lived in America all your life
- Understood how decayed America has become in the past 50 years
So, I’m done with you. You can believe, whatever you believe, but you won’t ever get it.
Okay, so sorry I didn’t magically change my views because you know best.
Guess you won’t ever get the big picture unless you’re born outside of the US and see how normal this all is for the US.
but if they use it as that? it doesnt make it untrue that they try to use it as a distraction, even if you disagree with the way of thinking
We know. You matter to us. But you don’t matter to the pedohitler and his zionazi friend(nobody does, actually). So while you matter to the people (we are horrified what USrael is doing in those countries), both bibi the nazi and pedohitler see you as less than human and a very nice distraction from the things that matter to them.
This angle where US imperialism can only be explained as a distraction from the Epstein files is a rather convenient display of goldfish memory that ignores everything about the US and what it was built on.
You’d be right except this isn’t imperialism. There’s no designs to annex or even occupy Iran. There’s no evidence were even trying to get lopsided trade deals or new markets. Venezuela is one thing but cuba and Iran can’t be seen as anything but distraction. Neither were threats, neither benefits the US in any way.
And it’s not racist or dehumanizing either because we’re not saying that’s what those lives are worth to us. But to him? Yeah, he’ll murder thousands and think nothing of it other than being labeled as a war monger instead of a pedophile. Fun fact that he’s apparently not aware of: one can be both. If HE thinks of war as a distraction, then it’s a distraction tactic. This post is preaching to the choir.
Thw usa is ally withbsaudi because of oil, occupied Iraq because of oil, want to annex canada because of oil, kidnapped maduro because of oil but magically the war on the last country that is in the top 5 countries with rhe largest oil reserve it is no longer about oil? The country that was controlled by a puppet before to steal natural ressources. This is ridiculous
Imperialism isn’t just about taking land. It’s about maintaining and imposing hegemony.
If there’s a goal to this war at all it’s to install a puppet regime that won’t sabotage the west’s imperialist ambitions in the region. That’s how this ties in to empire. Iran has been a thorn in the west’s side for almost 50 years and now the Epstein class wants revenge.
Also, your take on Cuba wrongly assumes the US wouldn’t attack a country that poses no threat, especially when said country, much like Venezuela, represents a socio-economic order that directly contradicts empire. They also don’t have to pose a threat for their labor and resources to still come in handy.
All I have to say is “deathcamps,” and the Nazis cry. Seriously, see every downvote. All of them are Nazis.
If you’d look at the pattern of your downvotes/upvotes, you’d also see that the posts where you are more civil and less hostile, but still talking about deathcamps, are upvoted. It looks to me like you’re being downvoted for being hostile, not for talking about deathcamps.
