Now that this community has mods, I think we should come to something approaching a consensus on whether there should be a rule against posting “nice” comics from transphobic and other kinds of bigoted artists. People like Stonetoss and Jago who have a lot of innocent-looking relatable comics, but also post the most mean, bigoted propaganda.
And I’d like to present a third option besides yes and no: one might post comics from bigoted artists after removing the artist credit, if the mods think that’s a good compromise.
Ah yes let’s censor another community and create yet another safe space instead of acting like adults and simply ignoring content we disagree with.
On this day in the year of our lord 2026 let it be so! Self regulation doesnt stand a chance against the might of thoughtcrime censorship and virtue signaling!
/s grow up people. Don’t like stonetoss? Don’t read it. Scroll on. Don’t limit the rest of us because you never learned to control your own reactions.
I believe having no-rules is a choice that damages the world, when the aim should be to improve it. After all: If you choose no-rules, you’re choosing extremism; 3D printed guns might be comics, lolicon, violent porn, and hate groups.
Society is built on moderating the few for the good of the many. Currently the few that need moderation are alt-right billionaires, and corrupt rightwing officials. It’s okay for the community to agree with this, and adopt that fact as a viewpoint (which means protecting trans people, and being open to the economic left).
You speak about improving the world, but how can that be your aim when youre limiting the thoughts your chosen few are allowed to think? Censure in thought is blindness in action. You can’t grow socially without having your thoughts questioned and your beliefs tested. The only thing you have left after a while is obedience, and obedience is death to true growth.
Testing limits is how people define themselves. You dont know who you really are until you start finding lines you can’t cross. Those borders define who you are and who you have the capacity to become.
I was never a fan of furries. Trying to fuck an animal is despicable behavior that should be unquestionably eradicated. Then I pushed my own boundaries because someone I care about took a minute to explain their interest to me. People dont want to fuck animals. They just want to make weird art. And that’s fine. But you need to find where that line is for yourself to understand how to feel about new things.
All this is to say that questionable content is essential for personal growth, and eliminating that content from a community does nothing to improve it. So you dont like stonetoss. Fine. Don’t post them. But dont force everyone to not post them because you personally dont like it. Just because you’ve found your line doesnt mean there isnt someone else who still needs to find theirs.
You don’t like how a community self-moderates, or the views it goes by, then you’re free to construct an alt-right battleground comic strip community as an alternative.
But some of us like to have nice things and nice places, without mistaking furries and beastiality.
You want personal political growth? Go join a political debate sub, or learn philosophy and history. There are places for the battlelines, where you can learn these lessons, and then there are places where we uphold the rewards of the good, the right, and the true.
NOT the edgy. “Edgy” is called that, specifically because it’s on the edge of what’s socially unacceptable. It’s the political battlefront of the Overton window. Well, not everyone wants that everywhere, all the time.
You believe this is the venue for it. I don’t want it to be. I’m not on the frontline of some alt-right culture war right now. I seek to be among friends in safe spaces.
If you seek alt-right, edgy comedy, and far-right spaces, you should go do that somewhere else… Or at the very least, if that’s not your jam… Then don’t advocate on their behalf here.
Its funny how you’ve latched onto alt right viewpoints as your touchstone. I know I’ve mentioned stonetoss a few times, as does the OP, but stonetoss doesnt matter. Its not about alt right or hard left or anything in-between. Its about freedom of expression.
Would you have censored Kathy Griffin when she was a media black sheep because it caused too many political discussions? How about blocking any comics with depictions of Mohammed because it deeply offends Islamic people? You know what, let’s block any comic depicting nazis or KKK robes because that could be upsetting to some people. Fuck it, might as well ban any political commentary at all because some parties might feel uncomfortable.
I dont give a shit about your pedestal youre trying to build. “The good, the right, and the true” sounds like an SS ubermench recruitment line. You have neither the authority nor the perspective to determine right, good, or true for anyone besides yourself. You aren’t looking for a safe space. You want an echo chamber to masturbate your ego.
Part of comedy is the unexpected and the uncomfortable. Its the great bridge that allows socially “unacceptable” ideas to be reframed and relit in a way that fosters discussion and thought. I think you may need to look somewhere besides comics if you dont want to risk being uncomfortable.
Lets see, the hard right are the substrate of economic and political inequalities across the board. So when idiot centrists peddle this “it’s not about left or right” crap, they’re really just saying they’re either completely politically, historically, and sociologically uninformed, OR they’re just saying “Yes, I’m a fascist”.
So which is it with you? Have you just never paid attention to the history of politics and society, or are you just some rightwing douche posing as a centrist?
Actually, as a native American, I have some inkling as to the effects of politics and society with special emphasis on how silencing minority voices does little to foster growth or equity.
When I say its not about the left or right, what i mean is that its all the same fucking bird shitting all over this beautiful land regardless of which wing youre looking at.
Silencing opinions that do not agree with the party line is fascist behavior. I know you tankies dont like hearing about how friendly father joe was just as bad if not worse than actual Hitler, but thems the beans. Its historic fact.
So build your echo chamber and tell yourself its okay because only you have the right way.
By the way, you’re wrong on this too… Because you live in a rightwing Capitalist/Fascist echo chamber, so sophisticated in cultural manipulation, that you’ve been subtly indoctrinated.
Stalin was a relatively insulated leader, he was horrible in that he didn’t really care about the conditions of others as long as he was well fed, and drunk.
Most of the deaths in the USSR were a product of Lysenkoism, rather than ideological Communism. Lysenkoism also spread to China, as Wikipedia states here:
Trofim Lysenko lied about his results and crop yeilds to stay in place (and well fed) as the Agricultural Minister, as the famine closed in.
Even if we look at the USSR’s Gulag system, they pale in comparison to Hitler’s extermination camps. Of the 18 million Soviet citizens that went through the Gulag system, only 1.5 million died. The vast majority walked out of Gulags alive. Comparing that to places like Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobiber (Hitler’s 3 major extermination camps), and the horrors of Auschwitz, Mauthausen, or Trawniki… And your statement becomes patently ridiculous to anyone who knows history and has studied these subjects.
Here’s a primer on Lysenkoism in the form of a podcast if you want to learn in an easy manner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05d8MPzfvs
…and what I’ve said here in no way endorses Stalin, or Stalinism, or claims he was a great leader. I wrote all of this merely to say how incredibly incorrect the claim you’ve made is. Hitler’s regime was far worse, and as anyone whose seen the 2001 movie Conspiracy which was based on the transcripts of the 1942 Wannsee Conference (where the Holocaust was planned), the deaths under Hitler’s regime were far far more intentional.
Okay, so you’re a dumb ass. Observe:
Oh yeah, “left and right don’t matter”? So left and right are equally as likely to be environmentalists are they? Dumb ass much?
Oh yeah, “left” and “right” are party names are they? No, they’re not. They’re broad indicators which no party actually accomplishes or lives up to when in power, because to get into power you need to be a corrupt right leaning Capitalist, because that’s the ideology of those who fund campaigns and want to avoid taxes and break democracy/laws.
You obviously don’t know this, but the current tech bro elite literally want to get rid of democracy because it risks them paying taxes or suffering consequences.
What the fuck do you think ruling class Capitalism is? You’re a confused son of a bitch aren’t you? Claiming you want to foster equality and, then accusing others of being tankies just for fucking pointing out the ruling classes lean right at heart because it gives them more room to beat people down.
Like, what kind of dumb ass thinks both sides are as bad as each other, then complains that the environment isn’t being taken care of? and that we need to foster more equality? OH YEAH, THOSE ARE RIGHTWING GOALS ARE THEY?
No, they’re NOT. Fascism is Capitalism’s immune system. It’s what money does to protect its interests. Most of the overt pollution and corruption is due to moneyed powers. One “side” has more inclination to go against that.
The other side has money and a disregard for environmentalism.
Anyways, thanks for letting us know that you’re a dumb ass. Like I said “both-siders” and “everyone gets a say” type “centrists” are really just endorsing the status quo, and right wing ruling class fascism. You endorse the pollution, corruption, destruction, all of it.
The irony that you threw the biggest whiney, snowflake, pussy ass comment saying to ignore things you don’t like and move on with your day is 😙👌
Speaking out against censorship is exactly the same thing as saying I should mind my business and move along. Yep. That’s why the first amendment is all about “keep your mouth shut and do what youre told to do”. I always forget.
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Move along, this isn’t a safe space for hate.
It’s not a safe space for censorship either. Why should we all put up with that oglaf shit? Because this is a space for sharing comics. Not Ally comics, not Trans friendly comics, not even cherry picked non-discriminatory comics. Its just for comics, inclusive.
of you don’t like it, you can leave
Censorship is not the correct word for what you are referring to. That is when someone is silenced. Hateful messaging being the subject of removal is something to be thankful about. It is pure folly to invoke the snowflake argument again at this hour on this platform: One can just skim recent history to learn that the hateful also are the ones concerned with virtue, as if briefly examining themselves amid a storm of deflection. The built in manufactured maturity complex should be a warning sign to consult a doctor, or the hate surely will ruin the last shreds of joy inside. At that point the right to ask why you feel like shit all the time pass by and that tipping point is the pipeline that feeds the oligarchy