Do you have any sources on that? Sounds kind of far fetched. If this is a world wide phenomenon then maybe because it’s culturally independent? Maybe there’s a biological or medicinal reason for not treating men and women alike? Everyone should be treated individually because of their needs, all comparing is harmful.
And it’s a veeery sensitive topic, judging other people’s pains, especially nowadays where every female-male-topic is ideologically laden, with lots of prejudices, claims and vigour, even hate and misogynie. We can agree on “let’s look at how pain and other medical treatment should depend on a person’s sex”.
Everyone demanding “I should get that too because men get that” should then allow me to stay in childbed (or maternity leave) because my wife gave birth.
This is a well documented phenomenon, meanwhile you seem extremely disingenuous and misogynistic with your flippant commentary about staying in your wife’s hospital bed after she goes through childbirth.
Looking at your tone you seem quite angry and maybe not open for discussion? You reference some sources for this “well documented phenomenon” that make me wonder if you read that or just asked some AI for it?
I agree with you if you want some more research done about specific disparities. It seems especially women in their 50s are underrepresented in medical research. There’s more of course, but it’s not “you are a woman, you don’t get any treatment”. This is as wrong as denying biological differences between the sexes.
Not really, it’s an extension of the point. The medical industry has such a pervasive issue with sexism against women that even women doctors are conditioned to perpetuate it because that is the medical culture they have been trained on.
It’s an understanding that the issue isn’t just male doctors but the entire culture of medical practice being influenced by patriarchal society that even female doctors begin to not take women’s healthcare seriously because they have been conditioned by current, male-dominated medical science and practice.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca above you did. If you do not have insights and knowledge on how to fix this discrimination within the medicine field, there’s really nothing more to discuss.
No they didn’t? They added an additional observation about the effects of the very phenomenon being discussed. They never tried to shift blame with whataboutism.
I explained their comments even further in my comment above.
Just because you don’t have a solution does not mean you are barred from discussion about the problem. That’s insane.
Oh it’s not just the US. Gender discrimination in medicine is pretty global, even down to the research level largely being studied on men.
Do you have any sources on that? Sounds kind of far fetched. If this is a world wide phenomenon then maybe because it’s culturally independent? Maybe there’s a biological or medicinal reason for not treating men and women alike? Everyone should be treated individually because of their needs, all comparing is harmful.
And it’s a veeery sensitive topic, judging other people’s pains, especially nowadays where every female-male-topic is ideologically laden, with lots of prejudices, claims and vigour, even hate and misogynie. We can agree on “let’s look at how pain and other medical treatment should depend on a person’s sex”.
Everyone demanding “I should get that too because men get that” should then allow me to stay in childbed (or maternity leave) because my wife gave birth.
The dangerous dismissal of women’s pain From misdiagnosis to medical bias: Why women are living longer but not better
Gender disparities in healthcare access persist even in more equitable societies: A multilevel assessment across 29 countries
Sex Inequalities in Medical Research: A Systematic Scoping Review of the Literature
International perspective on healthcare provider gender bias in musculoskeletal pain management: a scoping review
This is a well documented phenomenon, meanwhile you seem extremely disingenuous and misogynistic with your flippant commentary about staying in your wife’s hospital bed after she goes through childbirth.
Looking at your tone you seem quite angry and maybe not open for discussion? You reference some sources for this “well documented phenomenon” that make me wonder if you read that or just asked some AI for it?
I agree with you if you want some more research done about specific disparities. It seems especially women in their 50s are underrepresented in medical research. There’s more of course, but it’s not “you are a woman, you don’t get any treatment”. This is as wrong as denying biological differences between the sexes.
Okay yeah this is a classic misogynistic troll lol, don’t fall for his bait OP
I mean, yeah, fair point. Taken.
What’s more, female doctors can also perpetuate discrimination.
Whataboutism
Not really, it’s an extension of the point. The medical industry has such a pervasive issue with sexism against women that even women doctors are conditioned to perpetuate it because that is the medical culture they have been trained on.
It’s an understanding that the issue isn’t just male doctors but the entire culture of medical practice being influenced by patriarchal society that even female doctors begin to not take women’s healthcare seriously because they have been conditioned by current, male-dominated medical science and practice.
Whataboutism: what are you doing to rectify this?
No one is placing blame or questioning what anyone is doing about it. They are just making an observation.
I’m not sure why you’re bringing up whataboutism.
dubyakay@lemmy.caabove you did. If you do not have insights and knowledge on how to fix this discrimination within the medicine field, there’s really nothing more to discuss.No they didn’t? They added an additional observation about the effects of the very phenomenon being discussed. They never tried to shift blame with whataboutism.
I explained their comments even further in my comment above.
Just because you don’t have a solution does not mean you are barred from discussion about the problem. That’s insane.