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    Please reach out to your family and urge them to stop using Facebook (or worse, any form of reels) if they still do. The onus is on the informed now. It’s not enough to just ask the tech barons to stop, we also need to divert their support.

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    I’ve never completely understood what the full fuss is over the face-mounted cameras. They put high-power zooms and 50MP sensors on the back of cell phones, and nobody bats an eye.

    There’s fuckloads of recording going on. Do it with a phone? yeah fine. Do it with glasses, world’s gonna end.

    Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it’s on from the nose bridge.

    I’d LOVE to replace my phone with a pair of glasses.

    • Yes, both the glasses and phone can record.

      The glasses have an AI that can scan social media, and other public data, to identify people in real time. I supposed this can be done with an app on a phone. But the glasses do this as a core function.

      It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

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        It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

        Agree. Less obvious with glasses… AND easier to do it 24/7. People get tired holding up a phone. Or they have to put it down to use both hands for something. With glasses, some will record everyone around them, during every moment of their waking life.

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        But the glasses do this as a core function.

        go back to google glass, it had none of that and it was just as big of a target.

        It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

        There are entire kinks around voyure footage taken unaware in public from cell phones. I think your lack of seeing people doing it a confirmation bias.

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      Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it’s on from the nose bridge.

      This is that part that’s missing, it’s more obvious when someone is holding their phone to record you. Phone’s should probably have an indicator too…

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        this also assumes the entire public is aware of what that little light means, if they can even see it in sunny situations. oh, a light! ok, why didn’t you say so, i by all means now consent to endless public recording from human mounted cameras /s

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          Actually I think the public would generally understand this. Older demographics know what a camera indicator is, and for younger ones, a little light on sunglasses would get their attention.

          Universally? No. But I’d wager the percentage is high enough for a crowd to know.

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        In some countries, they’ve made it illegal to turn off the shutter sound on your camera, so that women can hear the sound when some pervert is trying to take upskirts.

        Putting a recording light on the glasses does basically the same thing, by alerting those around them. It wouldn’t be hard to disable it, though.

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        phones should absolutely indicate and in a way that can’t be taped over.

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      If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you’ll be totally cool?
      Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don’t know about it.

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        If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you’ll be totally cool?

        You don’t need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you “reading social media” would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

        Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don’t know about it.

        Assume every time someone has their phone in front of them their camera is on and has at least a 45 degree viewing angle.

        I’m saying it’s exactly the same on a phone, don’t delude yourself that it isn’t happening or that it’d be totally obvious

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          You don’t need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you “reading social media” would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

          No, I don’t think it happens “all the fucking time”. That it happens is granted. I don’t think it’s that common.

          I’m saying it’s exactly the same on a phone, don’t delude yourself that it isn’t happening or that it’d be totally obvious

          Smartphones have an incredibly range of usage, and no one ever advertised them as “tool to secretly take pics and videos of people around you”. And no, it’s not that easy to film people secretly: you need to maintain the phone with the right orientation for an extended period of time and if you or the target move, it gets more and more obvious.

          Smartglasses are almost made for that, and the abuses are already showing out there:

          https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/meta-glasses-app-covert-filming-women-girls-safety-b2942005.html https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/meta-glasses-covert-recording-9.7139927 https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/09/world/manfluencers-smart-glasses-intl https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ke7rm7go

          I’m not the delusional here. You’re in denial of what’s already happening. And without a strong regulation, it will get worse.

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            My problem is we’ve let it through literally everywhere else, cameras, cellphones, public survielance, dashcams. The one thing that i’d actually like to be able not to pull my phones out for is the hill to die on. it just all seems really fucking pointless

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          This comparison is like saying that, because a car can be used to run over pedestrians at any time, there is no reason to be alarmed about people installing the Crosswalk-pocalypse 5000 (now with 30% more spikes!) on their front bumper.

          Of course we know people can discretely record you with a phone. The difference is that the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

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            the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

            care to give me any citation at all on that?

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      When google glass first debuted, I was thinking how much easier my job could be if I could have the faces of the people authorized to enter in that device to make admission easier (there were over 300 faces to remember that didn’t have to use their issued ID due to position), as in, when a person approaches if they were in my “PRIVATE ON DEVICE” database their access card would display on my screen. Never got one, thankfully. This new tech would be great for this except I doubt that there would be an offline mode, so I see no use case for this unless you want to assist in the tracking of people for Meta.

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    I found this morsel particularly poignant:

    "Ironically, Meta expected rights groups to be too busy to step in, given the disastrous geopolitical climate.

    “We will launch during a dynamic political environment where many civil society groups that we would expect to attack us would have their resources focused on other concerns,” the document reads, as quoted by the NYT."

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      That’s particularly evil. No matter what their lame rationalizations will be, this is how we know that they created this tech in bad faith, and they intend to use it in bad faith.

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      “if such a dynamic political environment fails to come, the corporation will spur on dynamism by sponsoring alternative dynamic groups from within the country whenever possible” Shock Doctrine at its best

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          oh it illustrates the principles of Shock Doctrine as explained by Naomi Klein in her book as have been used over and over by extreme capitalist to impose the wonders of their ideologic scientific capitalism. But I just made up the whole sentence above

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      And I used to think the “secret dastardly plan diary” -files scattered around in Resident Evil and the like were silly B-movie stuff that obviously would not be written down in the real world.

      But no, they’re assigned in company strategy meetings and politicians just hit their sex slave supplier on Gmail with “Heya yo haave sum tasty kiids to fuck in Cali thiss wekend?”

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      The problem with that is, how do we make glasses like these illegal without also making any type of filming in public illegal?

      A good start would be for more states to adopt wiretapping laws with two-party consent models. Only 11 states have these on the books currently.

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        Buy a pair and follow rich and powerful people around with them. That’s how they become illegal.

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            How close do you need to get for facial recognition with a device that is designed to vacuum up every face it comes across? After a couple of scandals about who was out where with whom, that’s all it would take.

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              I kinda think kureta@lemmy.ml is right tho, it’d be hard. People like Zuck, they take private jets from here to there. They don’t fly commercial. They don’t go eat to normal restaurants with the plebs, he has high end privately catered. He don’t do his own shopping. Zuck bought 11 houses around his own mansion, for … privacy!

              That goes into an observation. Zuck zealously guards his own privacy. He doesn’t want YOU to have privacy! But HE wants as much privacy as he can get.

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                Good points. But the plebs happen to serve these folks. Not to mention congressmen/women tend to be a lot easier to follow than billionaires. Also the paparazzi are a crafty folk being handed another tool to be sneaky. We’ll see.

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                  True… paparazzi can get to people sometimes.

                  Totally with you on the idea, btw. I think the people destroying the privacy of everyone in society should feel that themselves, too. They shouldn’t get to hide behind infinite piles of money to guard their own privacy while they destroy ours.

                  It would be one thing if we could easily opt out. But we can’t. It’s not MY choice that puts me into this. It’s the choice of some other rando walking down the same sidewalk as me.

              • Make a series of drones that look like parts of the houses surrounding Zuck’s main home, maybe chimneys, plumbing vents, etc.

                Even using a private jet, a flight plan has to be registered. Musk removed an account from Twitter for posting his “private” flight information. Same thing can be done to Zuck.

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        I think hidden cameras are already illegal in some places, no?

        Like you can’t film in a bathroom, so wouldn’t they be required to take these glasses off before walking in?

        Just expand that so no secret cameras can be used, or.cameras disguised as every day objects like pens and glasses.

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        I think the best start would be to make it illegal to collect and retain data that would make devices like this useful.

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    Not like meta has a long history of ignoring obvious, enormous problems theyre causing that experts keep pleading with them to take seriously. Like in Myanmar. Where it has killed an enormous number of people and the death toll keeps rising.

    I’m sure they’ll do something this time

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      Like in Myanmar

      It was horrific, what hapened there with Facebook. Viral rumors would spread, the Rohingya were putting sterilization pills into the food supply. People would believe it. Then they would torture or kill those the rumors were about. They would burn down their businesses and homes. There were mass scale murder and rape, whole viliages burned. Because Facebook had displaced local news. What was on Facebook became the reality for so many people. It became an anti-Rohingya echo chamber, the hate would feed on itself.

      I think this effect is playing out in western democracies today. Slower, because the US, Canada, or Europe altogether, are much larger than Myanmar. The big ship turns slower than the small. But the same dynamics are here. Viral social media posts make their own twisted “reality”. It’s not just Facebook, neither. It’s lots of others too.

      I don’t know how to stop it.

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    Also, it will introduce: snitchonomics.

    Mass surveillance is here, but what if you could be an annoying little shit in the local community? Introducing: snitchonomics. Go around your neighborhood, discover discrepancies, automate your snitching and become a toadie for the local commissars.

    Meta: the Nazis would have loved us.

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      Just add an arbitrary point system like they give reviewers on Google Maps and people will be beating down the door to do this.

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          When I first encountered them, I thought to myself ‘this is the most communist shit I ever heard, how is this popular in the USA?’

          and then Trump came along and the answer: oh, because most fucking idiots love either bootlicking or powertripping

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    “Pervert Glasses” = AI glasses

    (For doomscrollers who don’t read the articles)

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          stones in my fucking shoes it is then.

          Everybody says this… but I’m afraid it won’t help or for very long. Gate recog algos measures physical characteristics. Things that are not changed by a shoe stone, like the length of your femur and tibia. The way your hips move as your leg does. Ratio of hip width to other measures. Things things are more fingerprint-ish like that.

          It’s a lot like… how facial recog looks at distances between your pupils. Or the exact position of your cheekbones and structure of the face. Making it hard to fool in some ways.

          It can all be fooled to a degree. Anyway it’s all probabilities. Maybe it works 95% and fails 5% or w/e, but that’s “good enough” for advertizers and data brokers.

          It’s all just an exhausting uphill battle :(