A few days ago I made a post to gauge this community’s opinion on whether it should allow nice comics by bigoted artists. I think we have a consensus.
The majority of comments were very in support of banning comics by artists like Stonetoss and Jago. I heard from queer people who said they’d feel safer if the rules were changed. A lot of people were concerned about this community becoming a “Nazi bar”, the comment expressing that feeling got a LOT of upvotes.
The people against the change had two main arguments: anti-censorship, and personal responsibility. A few people equated active moderation practices with book burning. Nearly all of these “against” comments were downvoted or ratiod, and tended to have a lot of arguments underneath them, while the “pro” comments went uncontested.
On the internet, 10% of people will disagree with just about anything. With that in mind, I think we’ve reached a consensus. The community wants a rule change so that users can’t post inoffensive comics by bigoted artists.
That means no more Jago comics. I see a lot of people in the comments under the Jago posts, getting angry and saying they want this rule change. People aren’t happy with the user who’s posting all the Jago comics.
Mods, this is what we want. Please change the rules and get Jago’s comics outta here.
I have no comment currently for what will happen regarding bigot artists, I’m not the top mod.
However, please stop making META posts when you made one about the same topic just a few days ago. If the comments on this get out of hand I will lock the thread for civilities sake. Please wait for us to make an announcement about such things, it may take some time.
FYI that’s the MO with this user with their current and previous instance grail accounts. Here to only be a troll/drive attacks at who they dislike.
Before was part of a witch hunt against a blajah mod because they were simply a mod of a comm they disliked.
Why may it take some time?
Do you not have a way to communicate? It’s a very simple thing to reach consensus on a topic and add a rule to a sidebar.
This is an Internet community, not running a government there is no need for a long drawn out “thinking” phase.
There’s a specific type of person that makes quick, unilateral decisions that effect entire communities, with out allowing time for community members or other admins to participate in a discussion.
They’re called hoa president’s, and I think I can speak for everyone here; we do not want this community ran like a shitty hoa.
Give the mods time to decide how they want to deal with the artist’s we don’t want shared here. I don’t want the moderators to curate it, nor do I think they should have the added workload of digging through an artist’s history to verify they are an issue - which they have to do thoroughly because of how easy it is to edit a comic to be something its not.
I still think the easiest is to just have everyone put the artist name in the title, if the singular post isn’t a problem, it can stay. If people want to block the entire artist, they can make a filter. Perhaps a bot could also be made to pick up on the artist’s name and put an informative “BTW, this guy stinks” in the comments. If a user is repeatedly posting hateful content, then they should get banned.
We are all on different time zones and schedules.
And like I said, not the top mod. I don’t get to just do things, that would be a massive overstep of my mod powers. I just remove comments that take it too far, occasionally talk in comments like this, and remove anything super bad.
I wish I had a definitive, satisfying response and make this whole problem go away, but I lack that power. Sorry.
it’s nice that someone is responding on it.
Now that there is a mod team, can restrictions on meta posts and mini modding potentially be added onto the internal discussions?
The intent is there and I get they’re trying to help, but the amount of negativity and toxicity to something that wasn’t even a rule at that time, I think should be addressed and not allowed.
Not that I think they were wrong, so to speak. But… I don’t think that orchestrates a healthy environment when there is a mod team for it that can /remove/ the content instead of just spamming the community with protest comments or flaming
edit: FUTO speech to text is buggy and likes adding text I tried to add later on in parts I’m editing, removed the delayed addon lol