• Pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    Copyright is useful for when you’re protecting intellectual property from being stolen by big corporations as a smaller business or private citizen. It’s actually the original intent for why it exists in the first place. The problem is that it’s rarely used that way and is instead used by big corporations as a battering ram to extract as much wealth as possible from the ones below them.

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      12 hours ago

      (…) protecting intellectual property from being stolen by big corporations as a smaller business or private citizen. It’s actually the original intent for why it exists.

      Let me discern with you with this. Copyright actually started as a way for censorship, control and profit.

      History of Copyright https://falkvinge.net/2011/02/01/history-of-copyright-part-1-black-death/

      Also, trial fees are usually unaffordable for smaller business or citizens in most of the world. Corporations employ different strategies when using “someone else’s intellectual property” to avoid problems or persue their suers, and usually get away with it.

      Piracy is for Trillion Dollar Companies | Gamer Nexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdtBgB7iS8c

  • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    Copyright is not valid, it is an unjustified form of tyrannical control. Piracy is pushing back against something that isn’t acceptable or justified by refusing to play by their rules.

    Anyone who voluntarily supports or apologizes for copyright is neoliberal dirt to me.

  • Toneswirly@beehaw.org
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    17 hours ago

    Companies want to squeeze us for maximum value while providing minimal effort. So they get what they give; they should be competing with “free” but would much rather fruitlessly put up roadblocks that only hurt paying customers, leading more people to piracy. Its delicious and theres nothing they can do to stop it.

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    I know this sounds like a very stretched analogy at first glance, but it’s like a baker trying to prosecute people for smelling their products from outside. But if you think about it, these media companies are literally sending their information out into the air and getting upset when people just listen to that information. Like a smell, internet data is just out there in the air and it’s just unreasonable to prosecute people for either smelling or downloading stuff that’s permeating the atmosphere. Maybe tape recording radio songs is a tighter analogy but it’s the same idea.

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    19 hours ago

    Piracy is a correcting action on a massive market distortion. It’s a state enforced monopoly on any given idea. You know what other ideology liked state enforced monopolies? Communism.

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    Copyright laws are the perfect example on how our economic system is flawed. How can you pretend to get money on the abstract concept of someone copying some bites on their computer.

    Practicing piracy shows the way for a better system.

    Each time I torrent I murmur “This is the way”.

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    2 days ago

    Got another option:

    Copos had a chance to stop piracy. Netflix demonstrated that. A full all-you-can-watch buffet for €10 a month with everything you need available caused piracy to all but disappear.

    Then they got greedy.

    Piracy is just as much of a natural result of asshole pricing and market fragmentation as unionization and strikes are a natural result of employers being assholes and underpaying.

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    2 days ago

    I’m in between 3 and 4: both copyright and copying are amoral (they are just tools), but copyright as it exists today is obsolete, arguably to the point that it actively hinders the betterment of humankind.

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      2 days ago

      In ancient Greece, everyone told stories about Achilles and Odysseus and Perseus.

      Now we watch stories about Iron Man and Superman and the Jedi.

      The difference is, back then stories belonged to everyone. Now stories belong to billionaires.

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    Piracy is good, actually.

    Come back when games become 1) strictly drm-free no launchers no nothing 2) more affordable worldwide 3) not subject to artificial obsolescence, then we can talk.

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    2 days ago

    The mental gymnastics people need to do to feel better about getting something for free against the wishes of the creator is so wild.

    Just own it.

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      It’s not always against the wishes of the creators. It’s certainly against the wishes of whoever is making money out of it, and fair enough this is sometimes the creator but more often than not we are talking about a middleman, such as a publisher or big entertainment company.

      When I see piracy is depriving the creator of revenue directly, it always feels bad to me.

      When I see the creatives have been paid already, or have several income streams (and big ones at that too) and the only ones deprived of profit are the middleman companies… Well…

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      Yeah, “the wishes of the creator” don’t matter. They don’t get to dictate how people use an idea they’ve shared, no matter how elaborate. If they want to keep it private, then don’t share it.

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      2 days ago

      Surely, as in most modern games, the creators exact wishes is that nobody will be able to play it in a few years

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        Well yes of course, we can’t have the poor’s playing games years after their made!! That loses us shareholder quarterly value!! They must buy a new game yearly. Thats why we make everything online only so we can shut servers down at will, are you new in this industry?

        Thats why we are going after emulation next. Can you imagine, poor’s with access to millions of games 20-30 years old, with no subscription fees? The horror!!!

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      2 days ago

      I love Warren Ellis’s run of Moon Knight. The art, the writing, the themes, it’s so good. It was only after I recommended it on MULTIVERSE that I was informed Warren Ellis is an asshole. He cheated on dozens of women at the same time, giving them career favours in exchange for sex. It was a sexually exploitative relationship that the women were not made aware of in advance.

      Good thing I didn’t pay for it!

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          Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis’s run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn’t pay for because Ellis is a creepo.

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        2 days ago

        I just assume all creators of things I enjoy will eventually be proven to be sex pests. It makes it much easier to justify piracy morally to myself. (/j)

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      2 days ago

      Yeah because corpo ai slop bots asked the “wishes of the creator” before they outright stole everything.

      Hardddddd eyeroll.

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      2 days ago

      My favorite is people who use “archival purposes” as an argument for having a dump of some shit like SMB + Duck Hunt cart for NES. That shit isn’t going anywhere man, you just want to play it for free and that’s ok.