• joyjoy@piefed.zip
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    I wish for there to be no good reason to make war ever again.

    “And for absolutely no reason, war has been declared.”

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      Usually the reason for war are,

      Money (stupid because no war made profit for any of the participants)

      Power

      More power

      Resources

      More resources

      Because the president is a stupid idiot

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        Well, sure, war is rarely profitable for the participants, but it’s very often profitable for the giant corporations in charge of supplying the weapons and other gear, and who lobby heavily to ensure the people who are willing to make up a reason to go to war are also the ones who get to decide whether to go to war. War is nothing more than another corporate profit push at the expense of the populace.

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      I get the point but honestly: Why does that matter?

      If we only accept judgement or action by ‘perfect individuals’ aka. ‘heroes’ the world won’t ever get better as influential humans are still humans and often have, by design, flaws and mistakes build within them and their character. Does that mean we shouldn’t judge anyone for their actions? Obviously not.

      But to claim that ones vision or ideas are outright wrong due to ad-hominem argumentation against their personal flaws is also bullshit. You’ll always find something to point out, especially with historical figures. Since, ironically due to their imperfect actionism, our social norms have improved and we often rightfully so critizise things deemed normal during their time.

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        Because of the “no forgiveness doctrine” many leftist follow since their 4chan days. The biggest cancel culture fans originally were 4chan edgelords once, they just left the moment it became inconvenient for them to stay there, usually due to /pol/. After that, it’s usually imposed onto the others by the elders, because they mistook stupidity for radicalism.

        If you ask: this problem is not exclusive to the left, at least the western loli community is insufferable thanks to them (and explains their performative transphobia since “many antis are transes”), allegedly thanks to someone who ended up in both communities.

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        It matters coz how could I ever take a wife-beating racist serious in whatever he preaches or says?

        Noone is perfect, but you also don’t need to be a hero to not be a racist moron beating your wife. Seriously? If that’s already a hero the world is broken.

        I dunno who said it, but to quote freely: “the best index to a person’s character is how he treats those that can’t fight back and offer no benefit”

        If ghandi (or anyone else) beats his wife and is a racist, that’s all I need to know about what person he is.

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        So was Einstein and didn’t treat his wife well if I remember correctly. I guess there are no heroes.

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    Religion is cool. This week I learned from an Indigenous teacher how to talk to the Rainbow Serpent. See, I believe in the gods of all religions. I think it’s a kinder way to be equal.

    The Romans invented the practice of conquering a people and converting them to your own religion. At first they used syncretism, but then they converted to Christianity and invented the practice of denying other religions. Before Rome, people didn’t do that, people believed in all religions.

    Now that we live in a post Roman world, a lot of people only know the Roman way of doing things. A lot of people want equality, but instead of believing in all religions, they think the equal thing to do is destroy all religions. Destroy so many people’s culture. That’s what equality is thought of in a post Roman world. The Romans fucked us all up, man.

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      The Romans invented the practice of conquering a people and converting them to your own religion. At first they used syncretism, but then they converted to Christianity and invented the practice of denying other religions. Before Rome, people didn’t do that, people believed in all religions.

      Well that’s simply not historically true at all. About the Romans or other cultures before them.

      Also it’s a cute sentiment to suggest that you believe in all religions. But that’s not actually possible. Many religions are wholly incompatible. Hell many denominations of Christianity are incompatible. You can’t believe in karmic reincarnation and in the Christian afterlife. You can’t believe as the Norse myth says, that the world was formed of the body of a giant, Ymir, killed by Odin and his brothers, and the Egyptian myth that a god masturated and/or sneezed and spat two gods into existence who mated to form the earth and sky. You can’t believe in the one true God, Allah, the Greek Pantheon, and the non-personified Dao. Not all of these basic tenets of these religions can be true simultaneously.

      So either, you’re lying, your understanding of world religions is incredibly limited, or you just cherry pick whatever you like from whatever religion you like and pretend you have even half coherent beliefs in the end.

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        I don’t believe in the exclusionary parts, like “you shall have no other gods before me”. But I do believe in all the creation stories.

        Hindus reincarnate and Christians go to heaven and hell. Norway was formed from the body of Ymir. Egypt’s land and sky were formed by a couple sneezes getting busy. I don’t believe Ilah should be called Al-Ilah (Allah), because that’s an asshole thing to call a god. But I do believe in Zeus and the Tao.

        The mistake you’re making is trying to fit all of these beliefs into a single universe. If you believe that each culture has its own universe and that we have the ability to travel this multiverse by changing our cultural perspective, it gets way easier.

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              The drugs that made you go spiritually nuts. How would any sane mind come up with all those fantasy stories and BELIEVE them to be true? We call those delusions.

              But anyhow, seems like you’re already too deep into it to just take a step backwards and look at the box you’ve made yourself to sit in.

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                  Insane is nothing inherently bad though. But ignoring reality and choosing fantasy sure can’t be healthy. At least not in the long run.

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      Yeah there should be something like just… Beliefs? Sure, whatever floats your boat? But there is quite some stupid shit and indoctrination built into it that im not sure if the community-is-good-idea of religion weights up against the shitty stuff? But if you just keep it to yourself, why not

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        Belief is silly, but harmless. It’s like a wiener. Nice to have one as long as you don’t start slinging it in other people’s faces. The harm is only done to oneself.

        Religion though is the worst. I despise it and everyone fallen for it. It is just a means to control the dimwitted and weak. And it drags this world back into the dumb ages.

        Like Voltaire said: “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”.

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    Who are the people in the last few frames? I recognize Enstein and Bob Marley, but I’m not sure who the others are.

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      Well one was Reverend Martin Luther King Jr and another was Gandi so odd choices to add to a meme about how religion is the problem. Another I think is JFK the only Catholic president.

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        That’s not JFK. It’s Harvey Milk, an early gay rights movement advocate and the first openly gay person elected to office in California.

        Also the meme wasn’t ‘about how religion is the problem.’ The song and meme suggest the problem is artificial separations, othering people, judging them, treating subjective reality as objective truth. No heaven or hell because all there is is this life. No imaginary borders that mean you are meant to prioritize ‘us’ over ‘them’. No killing them or dying for us. No religions telling you that those in other religions are wrong, immoral, dangerous, evil, etc. The take away is meant be that we should seek peace, equality, and inclusivity. That were all the same at our core.